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Joey Arnold Agreed. I see them. It makes me a little sad. Some people are a bit better at teaching than others, too.
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Jamie Thompson From what I see and heard, they’re after the salary as English teachers are in demand in Vietnam.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson before that, taught at camps and schools since 2005
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Jamie Thompson Definitely need a permanent teachers like you. Most teachers stayed barely for a year and left.
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Jamie Thompson I just saw a post about your visa. How is it possible that you overstayed for 2 years?
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
first, my visa wasn't extended. I'm from the USA. Lived in Vietnam
since 2012. Made 4 VN visas n extended them. Been to Cambodia 2 times
before. But they didn't extend my visa that last time in 2015. They said
I was blacklisted. I wanted to know
more & they didn't tell me. I went to different agencies to get
help. Tried for months. And I was often teaching too at the same time. I
didn't want to leave Vietnam and abandon my students. I felt that I
might not be allowed back into Vietnam because of being blacklisted.
Don't know what kind of blacklist I might be on. It could be an
immigration and/or referral blacklist. So, I am not too sure. I got
busy. I had money, too but then gave it away to some people. Then I had
no money. Then I was trying to save money. Very long story. Very
confusing for me.
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Jamie Thompson Reading
this confuse me as well. Now, what’s your plan? What if they found out
that you overstay for 2 years? Aren’t you going to try to do something?
Marry a Vietnamese and get a dual citizen here?
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson, I will try to save up enough money to make a new visa. I want to try to do that.
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Jamie Thompson Have you tried finding agents to help you out?
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson
I did that. They tried. They failed. After many weeks of trying, there
was one company that helped me out in 2013. But at that time, I had no
money because I gave it to this family.
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Jamie Thompson Oh sorry to hear that! Are you still working at the moment?
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Jamie Thompson If you’re not working, how will you be able to earn money to get visa? 
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - do you have a bachelor's degree and TEFL/TESOL/CELTA/ ETC.?
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Joey Arnold Alan Middleton
I am not a teacher. Your question is not relevant to what I may or may
not do or not do or have done or may have not done and so on and so
forth. I attended four colleges. I have some certificates. I have
degrees. I studied education, teaching,
counseling, discipleship, psychology, for years. Been teaching since
2005, which was twelve years ago. However, that is in the past. That was
long ago. What I may or may not be doing now might be maybe different
than the kind of things I did in the past.
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - but you said here "teaching since 2012." Are you lying to me above or lying to her?
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Jamie Thompson Alan Middleton I think he meant he started teaching since 2012 and has stopped.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson
I am trying to say a few things at the same time. There are illegal
things I am not doing and there are legal things I am doing. But we are
using the same word to describe two different thing. I switch back and
forth between legal and physical definitions of teaching according to
the law. Too often people muddy up the waters when talking about things.
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Jamie Thompson You switch what back and forth? To be frank, I feel like you’re messing with my mind now lol
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Joey Arnold Alan Middleton,
we are playing around with semantics. We are playing around with
definitions. There are so many ways you can define words. Legally
speaking, I am not illegal. I am not working illegally. I am not
employed from an ascended position from an ascended employer. There is a
difference.
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Jamie Thompson You are consider illegal because you overstayed in Vietnam for two years dudeeeee
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
I might say that I teach. But what does that even mean? According to
the law, legal teaching must be legal through an ascended employer as
opposed to descended customers. I might be a freelance teacher, but that
is not illegal. The law does not deal with freelance activity in the
way that I do it.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
I ma not talking about that. I am not talking about my visa. I am
talking about what I do as a fake teacher. I would not call myself a
fake teacher. But some call me fake. But I do not teach. I talk to
people. But talking is teaching. B...See More
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Joey Arnold Jamie
Thompson, we are talking about two different things. These are two
separate issues. Motivational speakers are employed and recognized in a
different kind of way. They are hired by certain people, groups, events,
employers, and are paid a lot of m...See More
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - at any time prior to your arrival to Vietnam did you have an FBI background check with you upon your entry to Vietnam?
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Joey Arnold Alan Middleton are tourists required to get one?
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Vitaly Chetverikov The kind of teacher who keeps his visas in order.
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Tim Kim Sa How can you even get hired anywhere without a valid visa?
Your excuses for not getting your visa issues resolved are lame.
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Kenny Barry A craft, it's a craft. Your dress sense really sux too.
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Steve West Joey, I hope you aren't working illegally as well as overstaying?
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Joey Arnold I hoe you are not just writing for no reason.
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Joey Arnold Vitaly
Chetverikov what is your definition of work? There is the physical
definition and the legal definition. People always put them all into one
definition. According to the law, work is defined by employers and not
customers. If you give money to yo...See More
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Dermot McCloskey It's just been shocking from start to finish mate
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Steve West It's unfair to the children and parents though isn't it?
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Steve West Because you are breaking the law, that makes teaching a criminal act.
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Steve West Would you like a criminal to teach your children? (From their point of view)
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Joey Arnold Steve West you do no know what I do or do not do
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Joey Arnold Steve West I can be whatever you want me to be in your head
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Jah Mateus This is what pisses me off about Asia. Is know it all little wankers that know better.
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Rudy Valentino What kind of school complaints were made about you??
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Rudy Valentino You
know in the West you wouldnt be able to work with any children until
those allegations were dealt with. Im a little concerned about this..
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Bao Thien Weigert If he is responsible as a teacher as he is for his legal stay than I Know why I don't send my Kids to school
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Alan Middleton Is that mofo in Vietnam now? I blocked his ass lol
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Bao Thien Weigert You are right Miss Jamie Vietnam needs more law breakers like him
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Robbie Parker Why be negs! if he can teach he can teach! End of. Good Lucky JA!
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Joey Arnold It
is illegal to have real work without a visa and work permit. I do not
do real work. I do not have a real job. I might talk to people. But that
is not real. Therefore, I am not violating those laws because I am not
doing what is illegal if I m not really doing anything at all.
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Jamie Thompson As I told you, whether you’re working in Vietnam or not. Your existence in Vietnam is illegal. It’s common sense, Joey.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
2 things. Work and visa. These are 2 different things. I am trying to
talk about work in an isolated manner for a theoretical debate. Yes, the
visa thing affects the work thing. But I was arguing from an isolated
position absent from the first factor of the visa thing. What I said
about work is true. It is like the rock paper scissors game. From these
two things, visa beats work. The rock beats the scissor. You are focused
on the visa part which affects the work part. I know that. But apart
from that domino, what I said about work is true, technically, legally.
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Bao Thien Weigert And
for the Fee there is not such a law it's up to every Case .in your Case
2 years is just too long .there is nothing to explain
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Robbie Parker American man just killed a boy on a car accident and paid 250 million and left. No charges.
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Robbie Parker American man just killed a boy in a car accident and paid 250 million and left. No charges.
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Bao Thien Weigert Yes Robby Because the family agree
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