2017-11-01 Wednesday 10 PM OTC
JoeyArnoldVN
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - do you have a bachelor's degree and TEFL/TESOL/CELTA/ ETC.?
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Joey Arnold Alan Middleton
I am not a teacher. Your question is not relevant to what I may or may
not do or not do or have done or may have not done and so on and so
forth. I attended four colleges. I have some certificates. I have
degrees. I studied education, teaching,
counseling, discipleship, psychology, for years. Been teaching since
2005, which was twelve years ago. However, that is in the past. That was
long ago. What I may or may not be doing now might be maybe different
than the kind of things I did in the past.
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - but you said here "teaching since 2012." Are you lying to me above or lying to her?
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Jamie Thompson Alan Middleton I think he meant he started teaching since 2012 and has stopped.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson
I am trying to say a few things at the same time. There are illegal
things I am not doing and there are legal things I am doing. But we are
using the same word to describe two different thing. I switch back and
forth between legal and physical definitions of teaching according to
the law. Too often people muddy up the waters when talking about things.
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Jamie Thompson You switch what back and forth? To be frank, I feel like you’re messing with my mind now lol
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Joey Arnold Alan Middleton,
we are playing around with semantics. We are playing around with
definitions. There are so many ways you can define words. Legally
speaking, I am not illegal. I am not working illegally. I am not
employed from an ascended position from an ascended employer. There is a
difference.
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Jamie Thompson You are consider illegal because you overstayed in Vietnam for two years dudeeeee
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
I might say that I teach. But what does that even mean? According to
the law, legal teaching must be legal through an ascended employer as
opposed to descended customers. I might be a freelance teacher, but that
is not illegal. The law does not deal with freelance activity in the
way that I do it.
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Joey Arnold Jamie Thompson,
I ma not talking about that. I am not talking about my visa. I am
talking about what I do as a fake teacher. I would not call myself a
fake teacher. But some call me fake. But I do not teach. I talk to
people. But talking is teaching. But
legally speaking, talking is not considered a real job. Therefore, I do
not have a real job if I am not doing a real job. Therefore, I cannot
break a real law without doing a real job. I do not have are a job.
Therefore, I am not really doing the real job because the real job is
fake and therefore it is not there. Therefore, I am nothing.
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Joey Arnold Jamie
Thompson, we are talking about two different things. These are two
separate issues. Motivational speakers are employed and recognized in a
different kind of way. They are hired by certain people, groups, events,
employers, and are paid a lot of m...See More
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Alan Middleton Joey Arnold - at any time prior to your arrival to Vietnam did you have an FBI background check with you upon your entry to Vietnam?
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Alan Middleton Well
according to your words you came to Vietnam in 2012 to teach. Which
means you came for employment purposes and not to be a tourist. You
opted to come on a tourist visa or presumably VOA. A valid and recent
police background check is required for a work visa per Vietnam rules.
And by your own testimony or lack thereof, I have deduced you don't
have a bachelor's degree and/or a TEFL/TESOL/etc thus meaning you would
have to extend your tourist visa. After so many extensions your presence
in Vietnam seems suspicious and thus reason for your denial.
If I am wrong about any of the above, please feel free to post pictures below.
RemoveIf I am wrong about any of the above, please feel free to post pictures below.
Joey Arnold Alan
Middleton talking, AKA teaching, but not teaching teaching. There are
two kinds of teachings. There is legal teaching and talking teaching.
The talking teaching is nothing to most people. Everybody talks. Is
everybody illegal? Is talking illegal? Nobody can talk now because
talking is illegal?
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