2017-11-01 - created - Wednesday 3:26 PM MDNH
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What would you do if your Vietnam Visa expired 2 years ago?
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Banny Duke run to the hills and live off the fat of the land. bring with you essentials. think of it as a long camping trip...
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Garret Nelson Go to the consulate. You've had some struggles here man, the US consulate can help sort you out.
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Richard Costello The law is the law.Nothing to do about caring.Are you serious Jason?
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Jason Silverman Richard Costello: The embassy has already told Joey that they won’t help him and he needs to deal with immigration.
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Joey Arnold Keith Huntington but it could be very expensive: I am not sure if I can afford it
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Jimmy Quang Ngô Wt heck did you do 2 years ago that made you into our country's blacklist anyway?
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Bao Thien Weigert 2
years overstayed there is no money can solve the problem .at first you
or parents must pay second you go to jail third you are not allowed to
enter Vietnam 5 years or never again
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Joey Arnold Bao Thien Weigert then why would I want to do that? It seems that trying to fix it makes things worse.
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Bao Thien Weigert But just to comfort you.You are not the only one there are many others who don’t respect the law
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Joey Arnold Bao Thien Weigert
I respect law. Did I say I did not respect the law? I tried to fix my
problem 2 years ago before my visa expired. I tried and kept on trying
for many many many months.....
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Bao Thien Weigert The
day will come you want or have to go out of Vietnam and that’s the day
they catch you as long as you stay in Vietnam no problem nobody check up
on you but accidents or looking for a job you are grilled
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Bao Thien Weigert My advice turn yourself in do your time in jail and hopefully your parents pay the bill
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Jah Mateus you
may actually have to cross the golden triangle to get out. That's what
i'd do and try and blag that they never stamped you out when you left 2
years ago, a cheeky little wager maybe.
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Jah Mateus If
people smuggle North Koreans/drugs through the golden triangle. you
could go for a walk I reckon. You have nothing to lose mate. Otherwise I
wouldn't suggest it.
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Uli Ilu I
doubt you'll get an extension of any kind. They'll want you out of the
country and you'll have to pay a massive fine. If you don't have the
money, work and get some and do it quickly. Not over another 2 years.
Otherwise they may want to take you to jail. Get it done and get out of
the country with a ban for 5 years or so
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Joey Arnold Lorin Barrett,
the issue at hand is not about extensions. I talked about how I was not
able to get an extension 2 years ago. I mostly want to know why I did
not get an extension. But I also am trying to fix my problem. I am
looking for solutions. I did not say that I am looking for, say, for
example, an extension. I am just trying to figure things out. I am also
sad that I was not able to get an extension 2 years ago.
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Joey Arnold Uli Ilu, I did not leave Vietnam because they said I might be on like a blacklist or something. That scared me.
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Uli Ilu The
alternative is stay illegally for longer and keep living with the
anxiety of knowing that you aren't allowed allowed to be here. Couple
that with the fact that you don't have any foot to stand on if anything
ever happens. Also, don't forget the most important part, they can throw
you in jail if they feel like it. That will eventually happen and, I
trust, you don't want to land up in a Vietnamese jail.
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Joey Arnold Uli Ilu no..... what is the alternative to all of that? Sounds bad.... but what would I do not in Vietnam?
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Uli Ilu There
is no alternative. Those are your options. No easy way out of this one
at all. The mistake was made when you starting over staying your VISA.
Get out, start a new life somewhere else. Hell, I'd go back to the
states and try and find some factory job or similar. That's better than
being in trouble here.
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Saliba Memon I've
been mostly out of the US for over 10 years and I did go back to start
again, work and so on. It wasn't easy but I was able to do it w/o huge
problems. I just want to encourage you to not overestimate how bad it is
going back to the US. I have to say,
having done it, that I find a lot of expats over dramatize the problems
there. If you looked at the worst case scenario in both the US or
Vietnam you'd be looking at a homeless shelter in the US vs. prison time
in Vietnam. It's an easy choice right? As others have said, you're
getting past (or have past) the point of what you'd prefer or like.
You're playing now to avoid longer term issues like physical or mental
health issues from being incarcerated in a foreign jail. I'd work with
the Vietnamese lady others are recommending or plead with someone
(embassy/congress person back home) that you've made bad decisions due
to drug/alcohol or mental health issues...I'm not making fun of you but
you've got to this point on some level because of how you're approaching
things...
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Uli Ilu Joey, Saliba
is trying to help and I'd follow what is being said 100%.
Unfortunately, you have made bad decisions. Maybe not majorly bad ones,
but you're in a bit of a situation now that should have been looked at 2
years ago. I know you tried but leaving it this point was a decision
that didn't help. This is a hole you can dig yourself out of. You just
need to do it instead of digging down farther
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Saliba Memon J.A.
One thing I notice in your posts is you keep looping back through the
process of "you went to immigration, you had mixed signals, it's scary,
deportation, how do I get back in when i can't leave" and so on. At a
minimum, you need to get out of that
mental loop. It's not working for you or solving your problems. You may
not agree that you're making bad decions, but if you don't get out of
that cycle, decisions will be made for you, and that will not be a good
thing IMO.
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Joey Arnold Saliba Memon,
there are a few problems I'm trying to solve at the same time. I want
to know what happened. That is a problem. The more important problem
might be in the present tense. I will try to fix my problem when I have
enough money. I will try to make a new visa. I go through the loops in
order to help people see the loop.
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Saliba Memon I understand, your situation sounds complicated. I hope that you can work it out with the Vietnamese lady here in the group.
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Uli Ilu Joey,
unfortunately those were mistakes. I have made those mistakes too.
Things like these should not be entrusted to anyone else. You now need
to get yourself out of this situation. Like Saliba said, you need to change your thought processes, because the
way you view whats going on isnt healthy and will land you in more
trouble. Please talk to the lady who is a professional and deals with
these kinds of things for a living. Keep looking forward and work for
your best future. I'm sure you can get yourself into a much better
situation bud. Best of luck!
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Joey Arnold Saliba Memon,
I PM around 5 Vietnamese today. They all tell me to pay the fines and
good luck. Some say I might be able to buy a new visa, an invitation
letter to be vetted, to get back into Vietnam. However, it depends. It
seems I'm on a blacklist because schools reported me to immigration,
maybe. It seems, I was blacklisted via complaints.
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Saliba Memon I see. So, I'm guessing you'll have difficulty working your way out of this if you have complaints from schools...?
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Joey Arnold Saliba Memon
immigration and the schools did not really tell me about these things.
The bigger problem seems to be the blacklist thing and not so much on
how I got on a blacklist in the first place. But I am dying to know how
or who put me on a blacklist. I am a curious cat.
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Lorin Barrett May I ask you what happened to overstay for 2 years without a visa?
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Joey Arnold I
was not able to extend my VN DN visa a 3rd time. I tried. I went to
agencies. They tried. They said I couldn't extend it. I kept on trying
for months to fix my problems.....
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Lorin Barrett I
see but I think you should have given up after 3 or 4 months of trying.
Anyway I can't find any other solution than working 24/24 to make money
as soon as possible, pay the fine and live the country
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David Rock Joey Arnold
why didn't you just do a visa run...This seems very odd you'd waste so
much time trying to extend..I believe after 3 your required to leave
anyways and get a new visa..there is a cap for extending
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David Rock black list? Why wold you get black listed for a visa run. No money ether, This all seems weird. What are you doing ha ha....
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