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Gus Pickletugger I
love this post, It's because teaching English as a foreign language,
and getting certified from a paid internet course is not a real job,
and none of these Muppets would be allowed anywhere near a classroom in a
western country. they don't take it seriously, anybody who thinks
being a TEFL teacher is a career is massively deluded
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Vitaly Chetverikov Are
people with MA in TEFL and PhDs teaching in Japanese and Saudi
universities deluded too? It can be a career if you choose to make it a
career (and have the right passport, of course).
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Gus Pickletugger If you spend the time, effort and money doing a master's in TEFL your a moron
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Vitaly Chetverikov Gus Pickletugger
By getting an MA TEFL, some of those teachers get access to jobs that
pay as much a month as your average teacher in Vietnam makes in 6
months. How does that make them a moron?
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Mark Double ı used to make 10 000 usd a month in saudi with 2 months paid holidays
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Vitaly Chetverikov Mark Double
I just don't understand why anyone would want to leave this kind of
job. Even if the country isn't the greatest in the world. I'll never
have access to these jobs due to the fact that I was born in the wrong
country.
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Mark Double people like to get fired in Saudi as the company has to pay for your flight home
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Vitaly Chetverikov Not exactly the smartest set-up. I imagine it accounts for a lot of managers being told to go fuck themselves. 
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Gus Pickletugger You are changing the world young TEFL padawan, one classroom at a time
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Bao Thien Weigert Vietnamese culture 30 minutes too late means you are on time
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Bao Thien Weigert Vietnamese respect also means come 15 minutes before class and stop your lesson 15 minutes after time
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David Kämilainen I
think they dont select properly the teacher. Im not saying about you
cause I dont know but sometimes i got the feeling here in HCM they look
more for white people who learn English travelling or something like
this than reliable teachers. Maybe because those last ones ask for
higher salary?
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Bao Thien Weigert Vietnamese respect also means not remember over time at the pay day
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Jonathan Neal Recruiters
with these established notions about 'what the parents want' only
perpetuate the problem. When I was in Vietnam, therefore, I stuck with
companies like British Council, VUS, and ILA. Didn't even want to waste
my time being made to feel like crap by
scared, little, closeted bigots hiding behind the supposed wishes of
parents. Incidentally, I've only ever had positive experiences with
parents and adult students despite definitely not being white.
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Mark Double they are looking for role models that they want their kids to follow
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Bao Thien Weigert Vietnamese respect also means foreigners smart cloth but Vietnamese wear what you want
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Mark Double somebody that looks like a movie star is more important the someone that has a masters in linuistics
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Bao Thien Weigert In this Business there is no Respekt that’s why we call it business
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Mark Double to coin a phrase its all about maximizing bums on seats kind of business
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Bureau-Brousseau Ethan Étienne From
personal experience, if the center is chaotic, disorganized and
generally of low quality, the teachers don't take it seriously because
they don't care about losing that job. So, if that happens to you a lot,
maybe look at the way the teachers are treated. We only get 1 side of
the story here.
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Bao Thien Weigert It
is just a matter of fact that the word respect hasn’t been invented yet
in Vietnam as a foreigner teacher there is only one rule do your job
and shut up and if the kids kick you in your balls say thank you because
complaining doesn’t help and if the school staff won’t open their mouth
for a simple good morning of course it’s time for a flat tire
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Matt Black How do you motivate high School students on a Saturday morning? 7am start with 40+ students per class
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Bao Thien Weigert Very simple with the girls you play frozen and with the boys killing video games
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Zinab Tarawalie Karma
if you ask me! You should reply to teachers that are professional and
have actual experience! In fact reply to everyone full stop and screen
your candidates accordingly. But no, you have a certain criteria of how a
native English teacher should look and
refuse to respond to certain teachers. You're the one that is 100%
unprofessional. Don't be a hypocrite! I've messaged you over 4 times
over the past few months and you've never responded! I find this post
very funny to be honest. I hope you learn a valuable lesson after this !
Don't judge a book by its cover 
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Vitaly Chetverikov Teaching
online will provide you with income but it's going to do nothing to
kick-start your career. Besides the fact that it's limiting and super
depressing to sit in front of a computer screen all day, consider that
you'll be getting zero experience working
in a classroom setting. The fact that you lack those skills will be
duly noted by all of your potential future employers. Find a way into a
real classroom, it's the only way if you're considering TEFL as a
career.
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Alex Orellana Well
not all teachers are like this. Perhaps you should start judging
candidates less on appearance and more on qualifications. Then this type
of problem won't happen.I will love to teach children/ adults here but
most recruiters are so full of themselves
and prefer white teachers. That is one of the reasons that you have
missed out on some well-experience instructors to teach the younger
generation of this country. So you have yourself to blame for. 
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Senator-Andrew Lodge These
"english teachers" have given you ways to improve your business. If you
listen to them, you will be surprised at how reliable they become.
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Anand Harry Chan I
have noticed that teachers get hired by their looks and not their
credentials . I have noticed that these Teachers Recruiters are racists,
liars scammers and really unprofessional. They should look for models
rather than teachers
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Ian Mitko Qualified
people expect pay commensurate with their skills, to be treated like
adults, and to have an employer interested in their development.
Unqualified people are unqualified. Treat qualified people correctly
and they might stay with you. If you hire unqualified people, you have
to accept that you have chosen who you have chosen.
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Katiie Lee Sorry
if I am wrong, but I get the impression that a lot of people here blame
the recruiters for the unprofessionalism of teachers. Whilst I do agree
that there should be stricter recruitment process, at the end of the
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Tuan Huynh Thin
line between what you you would call 'qualified' and
unqualified.teachers......Lacking ethics and professionalism come with
the territory in Vietnam.....for both teachers and recruiters.....For
locals, if you cant teach go and open a language centre and for English
native speakers if you cant work elsewhere become a 'qualified' ESL
teacher in VN...Go figure....
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Tim Kim Sa My
view - you’re a foreigner who came to a third-world country because you
want to make money, a lot of money. Little did you know that how you
conduct yourself, day-to-day, affects the outcome of the students you
are exposed to. Not only will they learn
the English you teach them, but also everything you do - positive or
negative; blaming or accepting responsibility; truth or lies; impatience
or patience; etc., etc. - So, before you quit just to take another job
that may pay more, think about how far back you are setting those
students who have already learned from you, began to rely on and trust
you, have fun with you, look forward to seeing you once a week or more.
Either way, you’re making a difference in the lives of many people -
positive or negative.
We as foreigners (me included) complain about various things with respect to Vietnamese culture, mannerisms, etc., yet we must also consider that perhaps they continue in their ways because we haven’t sought to understand them and consequently accept and respect them.
This third- world country, that in general wants to catch up with the Western world, can do so quickly or slowly depending on us foreigners and how we behave - how we model for them and set examples of acceptable behavior.
When you quit or don’t show up for your scheduled lesson, nearly everything your students have learned from you will be lost as they fret about who their next foreign English teacher will be and if they will be accepted by that new teacher as you accepted them. Perhaps they will also wonder if you really accepted and really cared about them.
Teaching English in a foreign country isn’t a game and shouldn’t be viewed as a way to get ahead financially. It should be considered as an opportunity to mentor students, share our experiences, teach our culture with respect to English, encourage the students to do and be their very best and to think critically.
I’m sorry, but a flat tire, food poisoning, the flu, or a cold are not good enough excuses to miss a scheduled lesson at the last minute just because you want a break. If you got drunk the night before and you call in sick at the last minute, you deserve to lose your job.
Students and their parents depend on you - be there or reconsider why you’re really here and chose this career.
Let’s be a part of the solution, not the problem!
As Yoda would say: “There is no ‘try’!”
RemoveWe as foreigners (me included) complain about various things with respect to Vietnamese culture, mannerisms, etc., yet we must also consider that perhaps they continue in their ways because we haven’t sought to understand them and consequently accept and respect them.
This third- world country, that in general wants to catch up with the Western world, can do so quickly or slowly depending on us foreigners and how we behave - how we model for them and set examples of acceptable behavior.
When you quit or don’t show up for your scheduled lesson, nearly everything your students have learned from you will be lost as they fret about who their next foreign English teacher will be and if they will be accepted by that new teacher as you accepted them. Perhaps they will also wonder if you really accepted and really cared about them.
Teaching English in a foreign country isn’t a game and shouldn’t be viewed as a way to get ahead financially. It should be considered as an opportunity to mentor students, share our experiences, teach our culture with respect to English, encourage the students to do and be their very best and to think critically.
I’m sorry, but a flat tire, food poisoning, the flu, or a cold are not good enough excuses to miss a scheduled lesson at the last minute just because you want a break. If you got drunk the night before and you call in sick at the last minute, you deserve to lose your job.
Students and their parents depend on you - be there or reconsider why you’re really here and chose this career.
Let’s be a part of the solution, not the problem!
As Yoda would say: “There is no ‘try’!”
Denny Wygant Well
I would rather be a private tutor than work for anyone else but it
turns out that many of the students are notoriously unreliable and often
cancel at the last minute. That's life.
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James Davis I agree I would rather be a private tutor also and lead a group of classes each week
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Marty Phillip Hoare Did you mean professionally qualified experienced English teachers or those pretending to be English teachers?
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Jay Bird Taylor I
think low pay, classroom conditions and support factor into this. Also
only hiring blue-eyed, blond hair, white teachers under 25 who love to
party will get you these types of calls often. Before anyones' hackles
get not ALL white teachers are bad, the
hiring practice of ONLY seeing white teachers a viable option is a
problem. Also not everyone over 25 suddenly isn't irresponsible. Younger
teachers tend to be more free and have less responsibility and work/
team ethic.
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Jay Bird Taylor David Lyonz It's a factor in teachers choices to not come into work not a generalization of salary in Vietnam.
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David Lyonz I
don’t fully understand your point. But if that is a factor then I guess
it explains why Indians and Filipinos are so much more dedicated. They
appreciate their job even if they only get $10/hr because in their
country they can get $2.50/hr at best. That’s
why we get these white people who turn up and say “I don’t get out of
bed for less than $25/hr, I don’t do free demos and I don’t do any out
of class work that I’m not paid for”.
That is clearly not how a real teacher’s job works. A real teacher has to spend long nights writing lesson plans, grading papers and preparing materials. Being a teacher does not stop when the bell rings or the drum bangs. But for many foreign teachers here, it does.
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Jay Bird Taylor I
hear you. Personally, I don't take any job for less than 25 an hour. I
also don't do free demos. I don't spend hours grading papers or
designing lesson plans. Mainly because a lot of schools have these high
expectations but offer little by the way of support. I simply don't
take these jobs and leave them for others. No matter what your job, if
you accept the job then do the job.
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David Lyonz I
not only do free demos, I demand them because it’s a good opportunity
to see if the school is a joke or not. I also regularly offer to pit my
skills against another teacher if they have a job, class or location I
want. I have many times said to my recruiter
“I will bet you a day’s work that I’m a better teacher. Give them a day
and me a day and let the school decide which teacher they want to
employ. If I lose, you don’t have to pay me for the day. If I win, I get
paid and I get the job I want”.
Thus far I’ve only ever been taken up in this offer once. Usually because the recruiter just doesn’t give a shit and would rather place the first applicant who comes along and move on, but probably also because no other teacher is willing to put a day’s salary in the line.
If you’re getting 20+ bucks an hour and you’re going for a permanent position and not willing to prove your skills with an hour’s unpaid work then you can’t be too interested in getting the job.
And don’t give me that rubbish about schools just doing it for a free teacher. That’s just what people say when they give a shitty demo and don’t get hired. Sour grapes make the best whine
RemoveThus far I’ve only ever been taken up in this offer once. Usually because the recruiter just doesn’t give a shit and would rather place the first applicant who comes along and move on, but probably also because no other teacher is willing to put a day’s salary in the line.
If you’re getting 20+ bucks an hour and you’re going for a permanent position and not willing to prove your skills with an hour’s unpaid work then you can’t be too interested in getting the job.
And don’t give me that rubbish about schools just doing it for a free teacher. That’s just what people say when they give a shitty demo and don’t get hired. Sour grapes make the best whine
Joey Arnold True,
some English teachers are paid much more for much less work when
compared to normal teachers. Some might considered that bad. Maybe,
normal teachers are not paid enough for grading papers, for the
after-hours work. Maybe, English Teachers are paid too much and too
often. This is a debate. That is the art of capitalism, supply and
demand. If the schools are paying English Teachers too much, then that
is their problem, their mistake. It is the job of the teacher to make as
much money as possible. But it is also the job of students, schools,
employers, to do the opposite. That is common sense. That is where the
battle lies. That is the conflict. Teachers will always want more. But
schools may want to pay less. And the debate goes back and forth in the
art of the deal, of negotiations. Both sides should do their best to
argue why they should get what they want be it more money, less money,
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David Lyonz Mark
has a point. If you were hiring teachers based in qualifications
instead of appearance and skin colour we wouldn't be having this
discussion. Hire an Indian or a Filipino who are grateful to have a good
job and they will show up every time.
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Ken Westhusing Simple:
Hire professional teachers with professional experience and professional credentials
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David Lyonz Imagine
if you actually interviewed more than one applicant instead of hiring
the first white backpacker who walked through the door. If you asked
them to write a proper lesson plan. If you asked them their views on
education and actually conducted a proper
interview. If you hired teachers with experience who had kids of their
own instead of these 20-something dropouts with fake degrees.
Good Native English teachers exist in other countries. The reason they are so rare here is because that’s the market you created with your hiring practices and your obsession with 23 year old white kids
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David Lyonz When
the country insists on putting upper age limits such as 35 on teachers I
can and will generalize. Young people simply do not have the same work
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David Lyonz I’m
not saying a 23 year old shouldn’t be a teacher by any means. But just
look around at how many teachers show up for work hung over if at all
and it’s sort of self-evident. I wouldn’t dream of going drinking on a
“school night”. I work public schools
and it’s a very physically and mentally demanding job. There’s no room
for laziness or tiredness. By the time you hit your seventh double
period for the day you are running on nothing but adrenaline and
determination. I’m also not trying to say that young people are the only
ones who drink either.
But I’ve recommend people in their early twenties for good jobs at private schools only to have them quit after a couple of weeks to “chase a higher salary elsewhere” whereas if you go into a school where there’s a teacher working for $15 an hour and he’s been there for a couple of years the chances are he’s at least in his 40’s.
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David Lyonz Look,
Vietnam attracts losers who want to escape their failed lives at home,
it also attracts adventure seekers and it attracts a few culture
vultures who want to live a unique life. But ultimately, when they get
here and find they can work, they are faced
with recruiters who literally advertised “first come, first served.
$25/hr. Don’t care about your skills as long as you’re white and young”
and it turns the whole educational system into a joke.
You created this mess. Some of us are struggling to make our way through it and persevere but ultimately good teachers have their time wasted and frequently get passed over for for someone younger and whiter. One of the most dedicated, funny, cool teachers I know is an Indian. He has great grammar and he studied hard to learn a second language. His pronunciation is as easy for me to understand as any American or Brit and much easier than any Irish. But you know very well that he’ll get passed over for 19/20 jobs because of his skin colour.
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Hứa Nguyên Just
wondering how many foreigners coming to Vietnam to seek for teaching
job opportunity really know what Gerund is, or how to execute Skimming/
Brainstorming techniques. You cannot just spend 3 hours in class and
expect to master those concepts. And it
also needs to mention that most of foreigners nowadays seem to be able
to become a so-called teacher because they are way easy to get a paper
called certificate nominally. Besides, the majority of English centers
categorized you as a “great teacher” just based on your race or even
just your skin! Then stop complaining! You get what you deserve! That’s
the comeuppance girl!
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David Lyonz Yeah
but that’s no doubt because her teachers keep leaving. Though of course
that’s also no doubt due to her hiring techniques. Sometimes I wonder
how much of it is ten being unable to effectively evaluate people from a
different culture’s enthusiasm, but most of it is that they don’t care.
I had a state school recruiter friend who asked me to advertise for him and include “first come first served” and I said “No. qualifications don’t matter to you ?” And he said “Ok, first qualified person will be hired”. Sigh. He just wants to get his job done as quickly as possible without caring about hiring the best.
Compare this to a different agency where I recently applied and the interview process was grueling and they asked really tough questions that made me think and then said “ok, great. We have some more applicants. We’ll let you know when we’ve evaluated them all and chosen the most suitable”.
You know which employer I’d rather work for... the one that shows that they care about more than white skin and a pulse !
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Compare this to a different agency where I recently applied and the interview process was grueling and they asked really tough questions that made me think and then said “ok, great. We have some more applicants. We’ll let you know when we’ve evaluated them all and chosen the most suitable”.
You know which employer I’d rather work for... the one that shows that they care about more than white skin and a pulse !
Mark Jackson Yes
and the fact that schools look at the short term and agents hire cheap
young Vietnamese staff who only look at the short term. Lost income
from the cancelled class and fear of being fired.
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David Lyonz I
always laugh when a young boss will do everything herself and then be
late for everything and constantly flustered and I look at all the bored
staff sitting around on Facebook, playing with staplers and ask “Well,
why can’t they do those tasks ? Why do
you have to do everything personally?” And they’ll respond “Oh they’re
useless. They can’t do anything” and I just think “Why do you pay for so
many useless staff”
Sometimes though I know what the real reason is. The boss has to justify their higher salary by micromanaging everything. They’re afraid of giving anyone responsibility because if they prove they can do it then suddenly they’re useful and it threatens the boss’ job.
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Joey Arnold Too
many try to be like helicopter parents, I mean helicopter employers,
AKA micromanage too much... instead of lead, train, inspire, and stuff.
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Senator-Andrew Lodge Some
people are under the impression that they are actually hiring you to be
a teacher. Most schools are not. Some schools are hiring you to be an
entertainer that can make the English experience a positive one.
This keeps the kids motivated to learn and want to know English. And it makes the parents happy. The parents are the ones that pay extra money to have their child experience native English speakers. The parents are the real boss. lol
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Tuan Huynh Unless
you earn a salary and have a WP this discussion of being 'qualified'
teachers is rather redundant..........The real qualified teachers work
in International schools, have a salary based on a whole year with
private medical insurance and other perks such as a return flight
home.......Here theres no real qualified teachers ..just qualified
trolls..........
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Tuan Huynh And they would never call themselves qualified 'ESL' teachers...just educators.....
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Tuan Huynh How
about if we can start giving teachers titles such as professional
qualified teachers ?? or real professional qualified
teachers...???that would be so cool......;)
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David Lyonz Being
qualified and being legal are not the same thing. Having a government
authorization to work has zero relevance to your skills and educational
qualifications
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David Lyonz There’s
three factors here. Legal, qualified and hard working. International
schools demand all three. Many centers don’t even care about one.
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Matt Kelly To
be fair, qualified is legal. They are one and the same. There is a law
here that you need certain qualifications to legally be a teacher. If
you don't have those qualifications (even if you have some other
qualification) you are neither legal nor qualified to teach here.
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David Lyonz No.
They’re not. You can have the qualifications to do something but still
not be able to do it. Having a permit does not confer upon you magical
skills
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Matt Kelly But
if the state doesn't accept the qualification its not legal. You are
qualified to teach somewhere where your qualification is legal.
For instance a qualified Vietnamese teacher wouldn't be allowed to teach in an English state school
The magical "skill" of a permit is not having to work illegally or avoid immigration issues.
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Kevin Raison Or the ever common "I had problems with uber/grab" excuse
Just a thought, if you have staff issues, perhaps try looking at your hiring process first? Perhaps try asking for references and checking them? Or offer more money to attract more reliable team members and make sure that you're hiring and support those qualified teachers no matter what idiot parents say about appearance and skin color? Just a couple thoughts, I'm no expert, though, just trying to be helpful...
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Beau Kenton to
be fair, food poisoning is a legitimate excuse as the food hygiene
standards in Vietnam are very poor! If people say they have food
poisoning when they are really hungover though, that is a different
thing entirely.
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David Lyonz Hahah,
yeah right. I have lived here for 7 years and got sick from food once.
Food poisoning is not a daily occurrence. It’s just a convenient excuse.
Employers should demand doctors notes
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David Lyonz Then start conditioning it. Seriously, how many times a year can you get “food poisoning” lol
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Mark Jackson You
should think about who you hire and the process you use. Do you check
references and give teachers split shifts and often just one class in
the evening. Do you put humorous and extroverted in the job adverts you
post ? Do you like to hire young handsome
teachers who can start tomorrow? Do you ask where they are living and
respect experience? If you hire people you have to take some
responsibility for the people you hire!
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Mark Jackson You have also just publicly insulted all your staff who have guinuenly called in sick
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David Lyonz Having
the flu isn’t really a valid reason to skip work though. You should
show up to work and let the employer decide if you’re fit to be in the
classroom. You can always “take it easy” and give them some worksheets
and teach sitting down. It’s better than the kids having no teacher
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Joey Arnold Mark Jackson
people who get the flu shot then get the flu.... I have been around
people with the flu and did not get the flu.... our immune systems are
often too weak...........
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David Lyonz I
had a flu and a nasty eye infection recently at a school in the
countryside. I looked pretty horrific.. like a zombie... and I'm sure
the kids were a bit uncomfortable, but the boss asked if I wanted to
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Pham Hong Hanh Uhmmm 1st time accept the excuses. 2nd time face to face talk. 3rd time fire! This will help you reduce stress with this issue.
Tip: a careful interview is a must.
A lot of good English teachers out there. Good luck.
P/s: all our English teachers are young, but very responsible!
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A lot of good English teachers out there. Good luck.
P/s: all our English teachers are young, but very responsible!
Joshua McLaren There
are rarely a consequences for unreliable teachers. In the UK you would
get fired for being late after two warnings (verbal and written).
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Joshua McLaren And, in Asia, they are much more understanding about family issues.
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Môj Profeel Because
most english teachers here are not really teachers....and sooner theis
country realizes that being native does not mean you can teach shit, the
better (I am not saying there are no exceptions of course)
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Joey Arnold Unreliability
comes from ideologies, habits, apathy, subjectivity, progressivism,
ignorance, arrogance, stress, hate, pain, depression, distraction, and
so on. In some cases, it depends. For me, I got lost trying to find some
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David Lyonz That’s
because Vietnamese largely cannot read maps nor do they know how to
give directions. I was bowled over recently when one school manager gave
me A CROSS STREET. I commented on this when I arrived and he just
chuckled and said “Việt Kieu. I lived in America. I understand these
things”
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Aidan Alburo “In
some cases, teachers feel that if students can make up excuses and not
come, then why not the teachers, too.” That just doesn’t feel right. It
seems to me that you want to compete with your students in making up
excuses not to come to class. I would never hire such a teacher.
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David Lyonz “My
students don’t care about punctuality so why should I?” Is about as
logical an argument as “My boss is lazy and stupid so why should I work
hard ?”
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Joey Arnold Aidan Alburo
the argument is not a justification or proclamation of what one may or
may not do even if it sounds to be that way. The art of debate and the
art of the deal of negotiating is all about erecting awareness of
problems which allows people to think about things from a new point of
view. What I was saying was for the sake of making a point and that was
the point. What I was saying was not about what I do, did, have done, or
will do.
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Nathan P Cuthbert You
hire kids or people the are not really qualified to do what they say.
Point in case. Can they teach in there home country? Most no. There
white black. Or should I say not Asian skin tone. You get what you pay
for.
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Cody Bryne Trang Trần it's very simple.
The haphazard nature of the teaching industry, e.g. not providing guarenteed hours, low salaries and not diligently fact checking an applicants history results in a fairly low-value talent pool.
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Marty Phillip Hoare Generally speaking, yes. But there is a large number of genuine employers/employees out there.
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Cody Bryne You're not wrong Marty, but it's a highly chaotic industry where honest/scrupulous operators are at a disadvantage.
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Matt Kelly This happened in Japan, obviously Vietnamese law is totally different when it comes to independent trade unions.
A proper union here would cause carnage on all sides (not that I disagree with it)
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Bao Thien Weigert The parents are the problem .they don’t accept any other color than white ok barak Obama might be different
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Bao Thien Weigert I am white but I go too much sun on my skin now I look like an arab no need to apply for a job
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