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Anyone can explain where did human being come from and why did we appear on earth?
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Paul Anning  Hoang Anh Luu No reason...purely random...and the effects of natural selection over time....
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James Atou  Human Being will disappear Soon to
Give space To Some
Sophisticated creature
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James Atou  Because Sometimes 
Some people Lost their
Faith in Humanity
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David Rosenblatt  really? Then who is the “sophisticated creature” you mention?
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An Truong Hoang  Because Adam and Eva did not use condom.
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Joshua West  Monkey ate psilocybin mushrooms causing them to think outside the box
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Andrew Liang  human is suffering  . when old must wait for death 
.. best is no this world
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Narik Nammy  Exam hall- earth 
Examiner- creator
Teachers- prophets
Participant-human
Results- heaven or hell... hope simple enough
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Romelus Saladar  Hoang Anh Luu BECAUSE we are AWESOME ??? HAHahahahahahahahhaahahahaha VIETNAM is gonna be FANTASTIC !!
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Patrick Bernitz  I like vietnam so vietnamese can survive and other go die
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Keith Nguyen  To stuff the place up for every other species that came before or after our introduction.
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Jamie McClure  genetically manipulated species created by the Elohim. (sumerian tablets)
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Hoang Anh Luu  Darwin's theory of evolution seems not to be correct now.
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Valentin le Bref  modern
 science adapt herself to new proof. yes darwin theory is outdated, 
because of the progress of science, it evolved. like any other fkeld of 
science. The best way to get fame in science is to destroy theories, by 
meticulous work and provable hyphothesis. 
that said darwinism is not really a thing, evolution is one. ots a proven set of hypothesis
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Derek Ballesteros Reyes  Maybe its outdated. But surely the answer is not "poof! And then there was humans"
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Patrick Ramolla  To
 create a sentient, highly intelligent, self aware artificial life form,
 that can selfprocreate and travle through space and time by using the 
ion-energy from stars (optional/could be a different source of energy)
...this sentient being then will be scanning all the planets on its way to source for all elements it needs, to maintain itself.
While doing so it may or may not pick up, spores and other microorganisms like germs and bacteria or any other form of life and spread those organisms (it's DNA) on its way and contaminate other planets. 🌺
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By doing so it may or may not jump start a chain-reaction that'll lead up to a fast increase, but definitely interfere, in the evolutionary process of a enclosed ecosystem and that way contribute to genetic diversity in space and that life goes on.
There are obviously an alternative versions, one, where humans are travelling within its creation to find and populate other planets...
Although, before all of that happens and before the sun implodes etc - humans will evolve into a telepathic species that lives closer in touch with its environment.
This species looks slightly different, more like what we would call aliens.
However, those decedent from us will manage to develop time travel and eventually travle back to interfere their own/our evolution in order to eventually create themselves.
By doing so they also accidentally create all the big religions and jumpstart civilisations like the Inkas, the Mayas, the Sumerians and the Egyptians as they believed the 'visitors' where gods.
But at this stage - any other guess would do it and probably is just as valid...
Maybe, for now, stick to fun and enjoy the time you got ✌🏼️
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Remove...this sentient being then will be scanning all the planets on its way to source for all elements it needs, to maintain itself.
While doing so it may or may not pick up, spores and other microorganisms like germs and bacteria or any other form of life and spread those organisms (it's DNA) on its way and contaminate other planets.
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🐝By doing so it may or may not jump start a chain-reaction that'll lead up to a fast increase, but definitely interfere, in the evolutionary process of a enclosed ecosystem and that way contribute to genetic diversity in space and that life goes on.
There are obviously an alternative versions, one, where humans are travelling within its creation to find and populate other planets...
Although, before all of that happens and before the sun implodes etc - humans will evolve into a telepathic species that lives closer in touch with its environment.
This species looks slightly different, more like what we would call aliens.
However, those decedent from us will manage to develop time travel and eventually travle back to interfere their own/our evolution in order to eventually create themselves.
By doing so they also accidentally create all the big religions and jumpstart civilisations like the Inkas, the Mayas, the Sumerians and the Egyptians as they believed the 'visitors' where gods.
But at this stage - any other guess would do it and probably is just as valid...
Maybe, for now, stick to fun and enjoy the time you got
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Patrick Ramolla  Humans like to think it's all about them  😂
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Richard Winton  To
 ask a "why", instead of a "how", requires there have been an awareness,
 a will, and a choice that it be so. A hand guiding development 
according to destiny. To ask "why" without a clear source of where that 
"why" came from is to not ask a question at all. You need to first find a
 source of the choice and then comprehend its motives... how's that 
working out for you?
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold don't call it a bad idea if you don't understand it  😉
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla
 don't judge me if u do not understand me and faking something is a bad 
philosophy that might be build fully or partly on the concept of 
fatalism which I reject but most people bow down and worship fatalism 
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Patrick Ramolla  Ok, Joey...I'm not in the mood to discuss something with you, you already made your mind up on.
You don't know my motives and called it bad - per se you're doing what you're accusing me off...
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla
 motives are not relevant.... why you do something does not justify 
it.... doing good is good and doing bad is bad regardless of alleged 
motivations and other things and objectivity is the bottom line and you 
passed on an alleged idiom about faking it and the concept of faking it 
until you make it..... is bad..... the idiom is bad..... it is very bad 
for many reasons..... because it is bad....
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Richard Winton  I
 thought he was being facetious! In consideration of the possibilities, 
though... imposing will on reality is perhaps what makes humans 
interesting.We MAKE reality. Steer our own destiny. Take what is then 
shape it how we imagine and will. Has anything
 great ever been done by us without believing in something which does 
not yet be? In Buddhism and Christianity, the technique of applying 
"what would Jesus/Siddhartha do?" is a great way to make progress -- the
 essence of fake it till you make it.
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Patrick Ramolla  That's basically what I was suggesting - thanks for articulating it, Richard  ✌🏼️
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Richard Winton  If
 anything it works too well. I do think that that's a different issue, 
however. Lots of acquiescent philosophies or ideologies plainly work too
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Martin Schönrock  In order to appreciate earth's beauty.
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Joey Arnold  Did
 humans appear here or how did they get here & where did humans come
 from? The meaning of life is love, grace & justice, and the meaning
 of love is life, that is to experience it by living and then to share 
it and to teach it with others in a circle of Lion King life and all. 
The meaning of life is love and the meaning of love is life and it is 
forever.
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold ok - which end are you talking about?
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Richard Winton  If
 you make love the meaning of life then love is the meaning of your 
life. However, I'd say that the devil is in the details of how that 
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Joey Arnold  Richard Winton
 the definition of love is grace and justice together which is all about
 everything. The definition is also that of love and agape which is part
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Richard Winton  "A definition" of love. If you guys ever agreed on what that definition was I'm pretty sure that the whole world would know it  ;)
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Richard Winton  Personally, a definition of love which I find most interesting is that provided by what we actually do.
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Richard Winton  ... in other words, is your love strong enough to do bad things in the name of it?
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Patrick Ramolla  Quite
 accurate - as we, I want to be careful here, sometimes, can't know 
everything, tend to believe, what we do is good because we do it for 
love, not knowing that our actions might be harmful...so how can it be 
an action of love?
My hypothesis is, that naturally, there is no such thing as love or hate as they're both the same - based on where in the spectrum you are, this is what you experience by default, in the very moment.
However - if I look into the works of nature... I believe, I can see a pattern - everything is constantly changing (at different pace) and the things around or in it do its best to adapt or become in tune with it.
I believe that's the essence.
Everything else is interpretation, based on bias...
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However - if I look into the works of nature... I believe, I can see a pattern - everything is constantly changing (at different pace) and the things around or in it do its best to adapt or become in tune with it.
I believe that's the essence.
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Richard Winton  Yeah,
 that's the crux. Purpose is playing with fire. We're always wrong. If 
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold I give myself the benefit of the doubt at any given time, whenever I can.
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla, does that other reality have rules, order, structure, objectivity, a system, or is it quantum physics?
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla, you believe in relativity, subjectivity?
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold all jokes aside - actually, I believe that subjectivity is somewhere on the spectrum of an objective truth or reality.
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla, in other words, perspective
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold yea, exactly!
But I assumed you'd like to read your way towards it... 😜
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Hoang Anh Luu  Darwin's theory of evolution seems not to be correct now.
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Joey Arnold  Hoang Anh Luu AnswersInGenesis.org
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Patrick Ramolla  Hoang Anh Luu says who? I didn't disregard evolution...
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Richard Winton  Hoang
 Anh Luu In the proper scope of it being applied, and the proper 
context, it seems to continue to hold its ground... but isn't that all 
that it ever was? Applicable within certain circumstances? The actual 
theory and the social movement have never really been the same thing
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Danny Foulger  Humans didnt 'appear' they gradually evolved over time.
And its not a matter of 'why', but of 'how'.
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Patrick Ramolla  Probably coincidence and because it was/is possible!
Also, if you consider infinity as a comparable unit of measure than humans literally just popped up like a bubble in a soda bottle which is currently rising to the surface 😂
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Rob Nowlin  We appeared on this earth because of evolutionary biology.
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Rob Nowlin  Darwinian
 Evolution is the only explanation that works when explaining origins. 
It is far more logical than entertaining a fictional sky daddy. It might
 benefit you to read both Origin of the Species and Decent of Man..
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Rob Nowlin  My
 framing is quite there is no evidence for a cosmic creator; leading one
 to the evidence at hand. That evidence points evolution through natural
 selection.
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Rob Nowlin  Evolution over the course of time selects the best traits and passes those traits forward.
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Rob Nowlin  How can I be "anthropomorphizing" when evolution through natural selection is a process?
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Rob Nowlin  Joey Arnold,
 it is? Humanity is headed towards a cross roads; either a 6th mass 
extinction or to singularity. Either scenario is beneficial for the 
planet.
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold I've got a very interesting take on why the Universe might be 'deevolving'!
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Joey Arnold  Rob Nowlin evolving into extinction? Would the Q (Star Trek)
 let himself go extinct? If we are evolving so much, would we really all
 die? You want to die in order to help Mother Earth? You should help 
your Mother Earth if you really love Mother Earth more than the lies of 
your family and friends.
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla,
 yes, number 2, and the S Cat might be part of your explanation as you 
have already said. But words should mean what they mean. It seems you 
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla,
 do you believe in parallel universes? Are there infinite amounts, 
versions, variations, copies, altercations, mutations, of you, of me, of
 people, of the earth, of space, the universe, everything, in parallel 
dimensions like seen in Star Trek: The Next Generation and also seen a whole, spoiler alert, in Fringe and sometimes in The Twilight Zone?
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Patrick Ramolla  I
 do believe in multiple universes and I have my own hypothesis and if we
 ever get the chance to meet in person - I can explain it to you...
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla, how do you know your other parallel universe you haven't already told me about it?
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold I'm not sure if it works that way to be honest - but yea, quite possible...
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold really, is it because I asked you for clarification or because I may or may not agree with you  😂
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Tuyet Van Do  According to the Sumerian tablets,  we appeared on earth to be gold miners 
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Patrick Ramolla  I
 may or may not have redefined words, I'm definitely guilty on 
explaining, what I meant, when I said a word in order, so we can 
understand each other better.
However - let's just call it 'the evolution of words' and call it a day...or wait I've got something better, how about 'linguistic evolution' 🤔
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla.
 you are redefining. You are trying to play with the words by saying A =
 B if A = C and B = C..... that would be one example..... that might not
 be the exact formula that you might be implying or whatever...... and 
you know what I mean by life.... you 
already know bout you are adding words for the sake of something........
 but death and life are normally a biological thing.... that is the 
normal meaning.... and can somebody make choices and move their body 
around as they are living and not make choices and not move his or her 
body at the same time?
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold , define 'I'.
Are you referring to your consciousness or the microorganism and elements that make up your physiology?
I need some more information, if you don't mind....
Also, where do you draw the line where 'you' start and where biochemistry, physics and quantum mechanics come in?
Is matter or are elements dead or alive?
And if you consider the material you're made of as dead matter, are you partially dead by definition?
And if you're made out of 'dead' partials, aren't you by default dead and alive at the same time?
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Also, where do you draw the line where 'you' start and where biochemistry, physics and quantum mechanics come in?
Is matter or are elements dead or alive?
And if you consider the material you're made of as dead matter, are you partially dead by definition?
And if you're made out of 'dead' partials, aren't you by default dead and alive at the same time?
Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold no, you're wrong, the question is 'Can I be dead and alive at the same time?'
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Patrick Ramolla  Joey Arnold - however, I don't think it's just as 'black and white' as, it appears to me, you're proposing.
I actually want to look further into where A and C merge together or even are interconnected, maybe even codependent...so I'm asking the question, can and where do we draw the line?
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla,
 we are not talking about that. we are not on the same page. You always 
talk about perspective of what one might perceive and see and understand
 from their perspective but I am not asking you about what I think or 
about what I think. I am not talking 
about subjectivity, relativity, perception, perspective. My questions 
are not about those things. But you always go back to those things. 
Regardless of whether you know or not know that youare doing that, you 
are in fact doing those things regardless of your perception of it. You 
can feel what you want. You can see and think and believe what you want.
 But I am not asking about that. But that is the only thing that is out 
there according to you it seems.
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Patrick Ramolla  So what are you talking about - you want a binary answer?
Ok, if you're dead you're dead and if you're alive you're alive, easy!
But you're asking it wrong!
We don't know with certainty whether or not there are other possibilities.
Only because you don't see it or hear it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
'Am I dead or alive?' is a question I can answer in a binary.
It's either yes or no.
'Can I be dead or alive at the same time?'
'Yea, sure why not.'
'Maybe!'
'Who the fuck knows.'
Different dynamic...
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But you're asking it wrong!
We don't know with certainty whether or not there are other possibilities.
Only because you don't see it or hear it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
'Am I dead or alive?' is a question I can answer in a binary.
It's either yes or no.
'Can I be dead or alive at the same time?'
'Yea, sure why not.'
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Patrick Ramolla  'Does the bear shit in the woods' 
Yes - if he does!
No - if he doesn't!
'Can the bear shit in the woods'
Sure, but who knows if he does...
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla,
 do not tell me what my question is or is not. My question is my 
question. You are rejecting my question by telling me that my question 
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Patrick Ramolla  Exactly, and to answer a question - sometimes it requires more details.
Sometimes more questions have to be asked...
So I asked you a few follow up questions...
Instead of answering them - you had a full blow.
How about going step by step?
Idk - I feel like, sometimes, if you disagree with something or if it doesn't fit in your narrative, you go off the rails...
How about playing around with some ideas and have some fun, thinking outside of the box, discover new things?
Sometimes you come across as a angry little 3 year old that chucks a tantrum when someone says something you don't like/understand.
It's not really fun and none ever said debates can't be fun...
How about being a little playful every now and then?
I think my follow up questions are absolutely legitimate and more important indicating that I don't know the answers.
Believing to know everything, in my opinion is actually really dumb.
I don't know whether you can be dead and alive at the same time.
In fact, I never claimed to know.
But at the same time, I like to stay open minded.
I don't want to stop to evolve my ideas only because Joey says so.
Scientific facts are only factual based on evidence, right?
However, how many times in human history have scientific facts, or what was believed to be factual, been disproved by new observations and evidence?
The more technology evolves the more insight we might get, more accurate measurement can be taken and some facts will be debunked and some will remain.
So if you want to have a discussion, be open for it.
It's a two way street and not a 'Joey-knows-all-appaloosa'.
People will have other perceptions of reality and it's a good thing because sometimes you're sitting in a corner, where you can't see everything and that's why we share our subjective views and compare them, to figured out, what's close to be actual true.
To finish up - I'll stick to my initial statement - that there is a fundamental truth but it might not be what the general scientific community (or Joey) currently think it is, based on personal experience, perception, observation...so for now I stay critical ✌🏼️
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So I asked you a few follow up questions...
Instead of answering them - you had a full blow.
How about going step by step?
Idk - I feel like, sometimes, if you disagree with something or if it doesn't fit in your narrative, you go off the rails...
How about playing around with some ideas and have some fun, thinking outside of the box, discover new things?
Sometimes you come across as a angry little 3 year old that chucks a tantrum when someone says something you don't like/understand.
It's not really fun and none ever said debates can't be fun...
How about being a little playful every now and then?
I think my follow up questions are absolutely legitimate and more important indicating that I don't know the answers.
Believing to know everything, in my opinion is actually really dumb.
I don't know whether you can be dead and alive at the same time.
In fact, I never claimed to know.
But at the same time, I like to stay open minded.
I don't want to stop to evolve my ideas only because Joey says so.
Scientific facts are only factual based on evidence, right?
However, how many times in human history have scientific facts, or what was believed to be factual, been disproved by new observations and evidence?
The more technology evolves the more insight we might get, more accurate measurement can be taken and some facts will be debunked and some will remain.
So if you want to have a discussion, be open for it.
It's a two way street and not a 'Joey-knows-all-appaloosa'.
People will have other perceptions of reality and it's a good thing because sometimes you're sitting in a corner, where you can't see everything and that's why we share our subjective views and compare them, to figured out, what's close to be actual true.
To finish up - I'll stick to my initial statement - that there is a fundamental truth but it might not be what the general scientific community (or Joey) currently think it is, based on personal experience, perception, observation...so for now I stay critical
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Patrick Ramolla  Exactly, and to answer a question - sometimes it requires more details.
Sometimes more questions have to be asked...
So I asked you a few follow up questions...
Instead of answering them - you had a full blow.
How about going step by step?
I did tell you what your question is, as you seem to have forgotten it OR didn't like my response.
Idk - I feel like, sometimes, if you disagree with something or if it doesn't fit in your narrative, you go off the rails...
How about playing around with some ideas and have some fun, thinking outside of the box, discover new things?
Sometimes you come across as a angry little 3 year old that chucks a tantrum when someone says something you don't like/understand.
It's not really fun and none ever said debates can't be fun...
How about being a little playful every now and then?
I think my follow up questions are absolutely legitimate and more important indicating that I don't know the answers.
Believing to know everything, in my opinion is actually really dumb.
I don't know whether you can be dead and alive at the same time.
In fact, I never claimed to know.
But at the same time, I like to stay open minded.
I don't want to stop to evolve my ideas only because Joey says so.
Scientific facts are only factual based on evidence, right?
However, how many times in human history have scientific facts, or what was believed to be factual, been disproved by new observations and evidence?
The more technology evolves the more insight we might get, more accurate measurement can be taken and some facts will be debunked and some will remain.
So if you want to have a discussion, be open for it.
It's a two way street and not a 'Joey-knows-it-all-dead end'.
People will have other perceptions of reality and it's a good thing because sometimes you're sitting in a corner, where you can't see everything and that's why we share our subjective views and compare them, to figured out, what's close to be actual true.
To finish up - I'll stick to my initial statement - that there is a fundamental truth but it might not be what the general scientific community (or Joey) currently think it is, based on personal experience, perception, observation...so for now I stay critical ✌🏼️
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So I asked you a few follow up questions...
Instead of answering them - you had a full blow.
How about going step by step?
I did tell you what your question is, as you seem to have forgotten it OR didn't like my response.
Idk - I feel like, sometimes, if you disagree with something or if it doesn't fit in your narrative, you go off the rails...
How about playing around with some ideas and have some fun, thinking outside of the box, discover new things?
Sometimes you come across as a angry little 3 year old that chucks a tantrum when someone says something you don't like/understand.
It's not really fun and none ever said debates can't be fun...
How about being a little playful every now and then?
I think my follow up questions are absolutely legitimate and more important indicating that I don't know the answers.
Believing to know everything, in my opinion is actually really dumb.
I don't know whether you can be dead and alive at the same time.
In fact, I never claimed to know.
But at the same time, I like to stay open minded.
I don't want to stop to evolve my ideas only because Joey says so.
Scientific facts are only factual based on evidence, right?
However, how many times in human history have scientific facts, or what was believed to be factual, been disproved by new observations and evidence?
The more technology evolves the more insight we might get, more accurate measurement can be taken and some facts will be debunked and some will remain.
So if you want to have a discussion, be open for it.
It's a two way street and not a 'Joey-knows-it-all-dead end'.
People will have other perceptions of reality and it's a good thing because sometimes you're sitting in a corner, where you can't see everything and that's why we share our subjective views and compare them, to figured out, what's close to be actual true.
To finish up - I'll stick to my initial statement - that there is a fundamental truth but it might not be what the general scientific community (or Joey) currently think it is, based on personal experience, perception, observation...so for now I stay critical
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Joey Arnold  Patrick Ramolla,
 I support what I do. I do what I do for many reasons. I am not closed 
minded. I am not bad or too bad. I am not angry or too angry. You can 
continue to accuse me of being that. You might say I am too angry, bad, 
closed minded, and more. That does not mean I am or it may mean that I 
am but that being angry is not bad. There is  good kind of anger. There 
is a difference between being closed minded and being right. If you are 
right, then you do not need to open up again, especially if you were 
already open before long ago and have done your homework and then got to
 the truth and you can find the truth.....
Manage
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Joey Arnold  Patrick
 Ramolla, my question was simple and my question was what it needed to 
be and I will always criticize when people get away from the core of the
 question and I will confront and criticize and analyze and break apart 
responses to my questions. Whether or not you're right and justified for
 how much or how little you respond is not my job completely. You can 
have reasons for being more specific in the questions and answers. You 
have the freedom to do that and I have the freedom to not like it. You 
know I can be wrong to not like your response. But I don't like it 
because it seems to be a distraction from the root of the question. 
Whether or not you are being distracting or not is not relevant because 
what you were doing was too distracting and too counterproductive from 
the spirit and the core of my question regardless of whether you know it
 or not. What you may or may not know does not change truth and reality 
regardless of whether you believe in one reality or not. You talk so 
much about our attempts at trying to see the truth and what you say is 
correct and true. We cannot really see enough but that does not mean we 
cannot understand basic core principles. Your question about science is a
 misleading question. Whether you know it or not, what you are asking 
and implying might be too much like pseudo science. What is true does 
not ever stop being true. If something that is true stops being true, 
then that means it was never true in the first place. When I say the 
word "TRUE," I am not talking about a temporary thing. You can say it is
 true the at was alive and then later say the cat is now dead. You could
 say that what was true about the cat changed from one truth of being 
alive to another truth of being dead. But I am not talking about that. 
Science is a natural philosophy and religion is supernatural philosophy.
 Science is built upon philosophy, study, observation, in real time. You
 can say science changes as we learn more but that does not change 
eternal principles that never changes. Programs, products, places, 
phases, people, and all the parts change, evolve, devolve, come, go, and
 many things, perhaps, or not, but the principles do not.Those are the 
seven Ps but the most important one at the root is PRINCIPLE.... can you
 be alive and move around and be not alive and not move around at the 
same time? You are not answering my question and you go on rabbit trails
 either accidentally or purposely and you know my question and what it 
means even if you say you do not which means you are lying too much and 
that is bad and the meaning to life is love and the meaning to love is 
life and love is grace & justice, & the meaning of life, of 
love, is seen & experienced, shared, through, with, for, from, by, 
fundamentally, summation, and that is something we cannot fully 
experience, understand, prematurely, before getting to summation of 
eternal life and life never ends and cannot end and will not end and we 
cannot imagine end to life.
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