Wednesday, November 1, 2017

Visa Visa 11

2017-11-02 Thursday 9 AM PC
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Toby Hugh Daniell, I went to a travel agency to extend my visa, they said ok, 2 weeks later, they say no, then I went to another agency, they ok, 2 weeks later, no, and that kept on happening for weeks. And then I gave all my money to a family. Then I had no money. And I may have found some real help but already gave away my money. Also, was busy at times talking to people. And I really wanted to know what happened, too for a long time...........
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Corrie Stroup
Corrie Stroup OOOH! A sovereign citizen? That explains a HELL of a whole lot.

Also, if you're talking and people are paying you to talk, then yeah, you're working illegally.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Corrie Stroup no. They're not paying me. I disagree with you. Under the table work is not work at all. In a court of law, not everything can be classified as work. When you get money on your birthday, did you work? No. They are called presents. Gifts. Sometimes, I might get some gifts. Contributions. Donations. That is legal. That is not work.
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Corrie Stroup
Corrie Stroup "Under the table work is not work at all"

Under the table work is illegal. Even for Vietnamese citizens.


If you get a enough of a gift to live off of, yes, you must pay taxes on it. If you mow enough lawns, yes, you're supposed to pay taxes on it. Yard sales? You should be paying taxes. Start your own Etsy business? Fucking taxes, man.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Corrie Stroup taxes are for people that work.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Corrie Stroup tax is not applicable for incomes under 20K/yr in the USA, it seems, or it was that case...........
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Corrie Stroup work is not a physical thing, according to the law. Work is defined by lawyers, by judges, by law makers.... what you re saying is not true.....
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Corrie Stroup
Corrie Stroup Done. Have fun in prison. You don't want to go back to the States because they don't put up with your bullshit and you'd rather be in a fucking Vietnamese prison... So... Have a great life, hope it sobers you up.
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Tiwa Tiwa
Tiwa Tiwa What kind of crack you're on?
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Lavon O'Hagan
Lavon O'Hagan You are not well. You don't make any sense either.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Lavon O'Hagan South Africa.... in the farms....
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Lavon O'Hagan
Lavon O'Hagan Shows how much you know. What an idiot.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Lavon O'Hagan, South Africa..... genocide of the........
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Marilyn Mitchell legally speaking as my own lawyer, no: I am not employed by real recognized employers: employment is not recognized by law if the employers of the employment does not exist: it forfeits the legal contract of employment and is therefore the same as walking down the street: is walking illegal? Could I say that I am working illegally because I am walking and walk is work because walking takes work? No because walking does not meet the requirements, legally, to be considered as legal employment. But you will not be thrown in jail or fined or punished for walking. What I do in Vietnam is legally allowed. Many people will say it is not allowed but it is allowed because it does not violate the specific laws. You have to look at the law specifically. Maybe, I should make videos about it. I can open up the laws and read the specific laws to people. People do not know the law. Maybe I should become a lawyer.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I am also not legally or not not legally self-employed or not self-employed or employed to myself or for myself or to or for anybody and therefore I am not my own employer unto myself because, financially, the numbers are too small in regards to the requirements for taxes, audits, certain documents, and legally, no contracts either. Normally, self employed people work as contractors. But an absence of contracts is an absence of recognized work. Like a country that is not recognized by other countries..... I am like a "Worker" maybe not recognized, legally and therefore not really a worker if I am not legally recognized as a worker... If somebody were to say that I was working in a court of law, that would be hearsay without evidence in a court of law. There is no evidence that I was working. Therefore, a judge is not required to rule in the favor of alleged accusation on the basis of unsubstantial speculation on behalf of the defense attorney, the other parties, the other side. A good judge would be cautioned against such ruling.I believe in the justice system. I do not care what country I am in, I believe that judges can try to judge. And judges do try to judge because that is the job of the judge. Vietnam has laws. I have read some of those laws. I can write about them and make videos about them. People are ignorant and arrogant of laws and the legal system. I believe in the legal system.





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Aidan Alburo
Aidan Alburo You’ve been staying illegally for 2 years. Shame on you! Vietnam needs to be rid of losers like you. You are irresponsible.
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Jah Mateus
Jah Mateus And you want to stop pretending to be British.
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Aidan Alburo
Aidan Alburo Huh? What kinda shit are you on?
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Jah Mateus
Jah Mateus More like what kind of shit are you on. You look like a Smack head.
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Aidan Alburo
Aidan Alburo I don’t understand why you said I should stop pretending to be British. I am not living someone else’s life.
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Bao Thien Weigert
Bao Thien Weigert But he is mental ill it means untouchable .if this mental disorder certificated by a doctor he has a high chance to get deported without paying a compensation
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Legally, you can NOT be working illegally if you are not working. I am not working, legally speaking, because what I do does not meet the requirements by law. Therefore, what I do is nothing, legally. Is walking illegal? No. Is talking illegal? No. Both walking and talking can be work but they are not recognized as work. When people give you money, did you work for them? When people give you money on your birthday, are they your employers? No, unless if they are, already. If a non-employer gives you a gift, a present, then that is what it is. That is not work. You cannot work illegally if you re not working in the first place. You have to meet the requirements of work before you can violate that. Romelus Saladar Marilyn Mitchell Rick Arnold
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Peter Paul Gualtieri
Peter Paul Gualtieri The kind that doesn't over stay his visas
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I tried not to










I might go to prison.
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Linda West
Linda West Don't do it!
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I am trying not to.
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Lê Triết
Lê Triết Why do you want to go to prison?
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Ignacio Vidal Porras
Ignacio Vidal Porras To get food and shelter? What about sell some drugs
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold No visa in Vietnam.
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Ignacio Vidal Porras
Ignacio Vidal Porras Just get a fly to US god damn
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Mihle DeepSoul Mbiza
Mihle DeepSoul Mbiza loool you must be joking
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Mihle DeepSoul Mbiza
Mihle DeepSoul Mbiza loool you must be joking no life there ask me
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Jen Kathleen
Jen Kathleen Why are you posting this publicly on Facebook? Dude..there are some things you keep private ... this is one of them
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Jen Kathleen, do not tell me what to do. I do not want this to be private. Do not steal away my freedoms, my choices. I choose how I want to live regardless of whether I make good or bad choices. What I am doing might not be the best choices, maybe. But I certainly can still choose to do dumb things, perhaps. I do believe in sharing these things for many reasons.
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Jen Kathleen
Jen Kathleen You have clearly made some very stupid choices in the past. LEARN from your mistakes. Don't repeat them
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Jen Kathleen those are not mistakes
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Jen Kathleen I disagree with certain implications and assumptions and hearsay and allegations and limited perspectives
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Jen Kathleen
Jen Kathleen Overstaying your visa by two years is a mistake. And despite what you said about 'trying and trying' to renew it but being unsuccessful, either means you didnt try hard enough, you are hiding something, or your visa is not actually expired
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Joey Arnold you have over reacted to this
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Jen Kathleen not true. He went to a travel agency and they did not do what they promised. No one would give him answers.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Marilyn Mitchell I went to around 7 or so travel agencies and a lawyer and talked to immigration and the embassy and other people over the course of many weeks or longer. Had the money to fix my problem in February 2016 and a travel agency that said they could help for sure they say but then I had no money because I gave away my money to a family in February 2016. I thought the family was going to maybe give back the money because that family was trying to help me with getting a new visa but the family said they spent the money. So, then I had no money after that except maybe about $4 total in April 2016 I think. So, that was a big problem........
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Haruna Kpei Zuu
Haruna Kpei Zuu Kill your country president wife
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Paul McGurn
Paul McGurn You could sneak across the border with cambodia, then get a flight out via PP
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Joey Arnold but what CAN you do?? and facebook is not a wise place for this discussion. I don't think people understand how hard you tried to fix this situation.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Marilyn Mitchell exit visa and an invitation letter via a travel agency
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Go to the US embassy!
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland What did they say?
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Christopher Rowland go to immigration and I went to immigration and they said leave and then I went to leave and the agency didn't want to help when I said blacklist
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Paul McGurn
Paul McGurn Speak to your embassy, say you thought you were married to anna or zizi, and thought you did not need a visa...
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold you remember those 2 girls
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I went to the embassy
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Paul McGurn
Paul McGurn Oh thats right
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Paul McGurn
Paul McGurn How could i mix them up?
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Paul McGurn I am like Trump when I talk about stuff many times in very simple words
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Paul McGurn
Paul McGurn No I wouldn't say you're like Trump
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Dao Xuan Phuong Trang
Dao Xuan Phuong Trang Nobody goes to prison for that, especially in Vietnam. This country does not actually have much space in jail, you know.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold but I overstayed by 2 years
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Dao Xuan Phuong Trang
Dao Xuan Phuong Trang Joey Arnold it is ridiculous to Get you to jail. The police cant even spell your English name. The only problem is that it is a bit hard for you to find a job if your paper is not ok. But there are still places accepting your case with a more modest salary than usual
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Dao Xuan Phuong Trang but crossing the border might be difficult
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan Just go to your embassy for advice. The best way to go. You won’t go to prison unless it’s a crime you’ve committed? The only thing you have to face is pay the penalty here via a visa agent’s assistance or directly to the Vietnamese embassy. & you have to leave the country coz technically you overstayed. Then fly back if you still intend to return. Good as new.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold they said go to immigration and immigration told me to leave
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan Joey Arnold That’s the reality coz you overstayed. You gotta leave, pay a certain amount so you won’t get a deportation stamp. And fly back
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan I dont have enough to do that
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan I knew that’s basically one major issue you’re problematic about. Consult a visa assistance agent (may cost more) but they’ll find some shortcuts or some way. Money talks here & fast (esp w/govt depts)
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan Where you used to work/company may be able to help you
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan and I have been telling people about my problem for the past two years
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan no one will tell him how much he would have to pay!! He tried to consult a visa assistance agent already--he paid money to get a visa and got nothing.
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan Marilyn Mitchell Oops, wrong person to approach, maybe. Agencies & companies who do this as a business will go by the local immigration rules which is very complicated. Papers, documents & all that work. At this point it’s someone who can facilitate the exit documents & a trip to the embassy beforehand will do a lot of good
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan how can he determine that person?? He already paid one company which took his money and gave no results.
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan Im trying to help him with other sources
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan how about this: support@evietnamvisa.com or hotline number (84) 943 25 25 52.
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Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan
Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan @ Joey Arnold, we can try this info. Thank you Marilyn Mitchell
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Jose Mari Basilio Pamintuan http://www.visaforvietnam.org/Penalty-for-overstaying...
Guidelines on penalty for overstaying visa in Vietnam, what to do, how to pay fine fee for…
visaforvietnam.org
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland 2 years...the fine must be off the charts!
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Joey Arnold set up a go fund me page!
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Christopher Rowland I have Bitcoin fund me address
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Joey Arnold find out how much the fine is.....and then beg!
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Christopher Rowland there is no specific number it seems
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Joey Arnold go back to the Embassy again!
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Joey Arnold I was one day late on mine and they charged me $40 at the Narita Airport!
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Christopher Rowland how would you suggest he finds out how much the fine would be??
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Marilyn Mitchell
Marilyn Mitchell Christopher Rowland so when he gets to the airport and has no money for the fine, then what happens?. That was his original fear and objection.
Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Marilyn Mitchell: either they let me through or not: either they take too much for the fines or they don't: some say prison: I am not really sure: it seems they'll try to get as much from you and if they don't get enough then they will maybe not let you leave the country
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli why would you overstay your visa for 2 years
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Christopher Rowland
Christopher Rowland Procrastination.......
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Ignacio Vidal Porras
Ignacio Vidal Porras Ask for deportation. Everyone does that
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli American illegal in Vietnam
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli sounds like a Rambo movie
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I like Rambo.
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli Vietnam was cool.
just go to Cambodia and say a hail Mary that the Vietnamese border guards just feel bad for you and let you pass
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli or leave some big dong in your passport when you hand it over to the border guards
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold My go fund me information: you can send money to these two receiving addresses as follows:
Litecoin - LRxpufCqg95g3BYuAKHev6NVWp6Sgb7jiz
Bitcoin -- 1JY9EVYaB8SafhK8TvFoqs7vyRzmcRJGyv
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli i don't know you but i am gonna make a few judgement calls. you're not emotionally fit to be a teacher of any kind, let alone a teacher in a foreign country.
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli you're emotionally unstable, a criminal, set poor examples, and have serious issues that you need to work out.
in my opinion, you shouldn't even be near children with the total lack of judgement you show.
and your solution to all this being to just try teaching for cryptocurrency to fund your illegal residency in Vietnam is proof of your poor decision making.
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli the saddest part about you is that most Vietnamese have never met an American before, and it saddens me that many Vietnamese might encounter someone as selfish and wretched a creature as you for their first westerner.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold Reflecting? Deflecting?
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Alexander M. Portelli
Alexander M. Portelli get your fucking life together you're a disgrace
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James Carpenter
James Carpenter You should be in jail you little prick.
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Joey Arnold
Joey Arnold I will do my best.
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Hypothetically, if you were broke n ya VN visa was 2yr expired, what would you do?




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