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Trung N Huynh Lock yourself in an room and you can be both.
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Joey Arnold Patrick Ramolla
described dualism reality, it seems, as in different states of reality
but on the same plane / space / area / dimension / universe as opposed
to parallel universes. Infinite amounts of parallel universes makes more
sense than infinite amounts of
realities at the same time in the same reality / dimension / universe /
space / place / location / area / timeline and that is why I ask about
the ability to be dead and alive in the same reality. Perception varies.
Reality is what reality is. Pat seems to be promoting one timeline
space time continuum with variations of opposing and paradoxical
realities and/or perceptions of realities. I was trying to ask Pat about
how different realities (not perspective perception) can coexist in the
same reality. Now that seems to be what the S Cat thing is about. One
reality per parallel universe makes sense to me. I can be alive on this
timeline and dead on a different timeline. But how could I be dead and
alive on the same timeline at the same time? We are not talking about
perception but reality. Because I could look dead (perception) and not
be dead (reality). I love Back to the Future Trilogy. A great show related to this is Rick And Morty Show and Fringe and Star Trek: The Next Generation and The Butterfly Effect and The Time Traveler's Wife.
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Patrick Ramolla S Cat is basically just about uncertainty!
Which make sense considering the findings in observations, such as the double slit experiment.
However - you asked the question if you can be dead or not dead at the same time.
The answer is Yes and No and Yes!
Yes, because at this very moment, to me, you could be either dead or alive.
I have no certainty.
Yes and No as this can only be answered by yourself, if you're able to, or a person who could confirm your vital signs but certainly not by me.
The idea of Infinite universes, will, if looked at closely, explain automatically parallel universes, parallel timelines etc.
However, I'm not promoting parallel timelines, in the conventional way, as to me time is relative to state/position.
I'm not saying what you're saying I'm saying.
I'm also not wrong only because my answers was not the answer you've been expecting.
I'm actually a bit tired, at the moment, having this forth and back conversation, with you, on here and don't feel the urge to explain my hypothesis to you via fb, maybe another time
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Big shout out to the creators of the shows/movies you've mentioned!
RemoveWhich make sense considering the findings in observations, such as the double slit experiment.
However - you asked the question if you can be dead or not dead at the same time.
The answer is Yes and No and Yes!
Yes, because at this very moment, to me, you could be either dead or alive.
I have no certainty.
Yes and No as this can only be answered by yourself, if you're able to, or a person who could confirm your vital signs but certainly not by me.
The idea of Infinite universes, will, if looked at closely, explain automatically parallel universes, parallel timelines etc.
However, I'm not promoting parallel timelines, in the conventional way, as to me time is relative to state/position.
I'm not saying what you're saying I'm saying.
I'm also not wrong only because my answers was not the answer you've been expecting.
I'm actually a bit tired, at the moment, having this forth and back conversation, with you, on here and don't feel the urge to explain my hypothesis to you via fb, maybe another time
✌🏼️Big shout out to the creators of the shows/movies you've mentioned!
Patrick Ramolla S Cat is basically just about uncertainty!
Which make sense considering the findings in observations, such as the double slit experiment.
However - you asked the question if you can be dead or not dead at the same time.
The answer is Yes and No and Yes and all the valid questions I've been asking in response to your question.
Yes, because at this very moment, to me, you could be either dead or alive.
I have no certainty.
Yes and No as this can only be answered by yourself, if you're able to, or a person who could confirm your vital signs but certainly not by me.
The idea of Infinite universes, will, if looked at closely, explain automatically parallel universes, parallel timelines etc.
However, I'm not promoting parallel timelines, in the conventional way, as to me time is relative to state/position.
I'm not saying what you're saying I'm saying.
I'm also not wrong only because my answers was not the answer you've been expecting.
I'm actually a bit tired, at the moment, having this forth and back conversation, with you, on here and don't feel the urge to explain my hypothesis to you via fb, maybe another time✌🏼️
Big shout out to the creators of the shows/movies you've mentioned!
RemoveWhich make sense considering the findings in observations, such as the double slit experiment.
However - you asked the question if you can be dead or not dead at the same time.
The answer is Yes and No and Yes and all the valid questions I've been asking in response to your question.
Yes, because at this very moment, to me, you could be either dead or alive.
I have no certainty.
Yes and No as this can only be answered by yourself, if you're able to, or a person who could confirm your vital signs but certainly not by me.
The idea of Infinite universes, will, if looked at closely, explain automatically parallel universes, parallel timelines etc.
However, I'm not promoting parallel timelines, in the conventional way, as to me time is relative to state/position.
I'm not saying what you're saying I'm saying.
I'm also not wrong only because my answers was not the answer you've been expecting.
I'm actually a bit tired, at the moment, having this forth and back conversation, with you, on here and don't feel the urge to explain my hypothesis to you via fb, maybe another time
✌🏼️Big shout out to the creators of the shows/movies you've mentioned!
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Joey Arnold Patrick Ramolla
continues to repeat himself about perception. Like Pat said, this back
and forth conversation has 2 reoccurring ideas, reality &
perception. Repetitively, I try to ask Pat about simultaneous dualistic
realities. In other words, I try again and again to ask hypothetical,
theoretical, questions. Pat continues to say he cannot answer
hypothetical questions. For example, as already mentioned in this
thread, I might be dead (reality) and you might not know I am dead
(perception). But my question is not about the scientific process of
discovering if I am dead or not. I ask Pat about reality. Now, Pat
continues to redefine the term "REALITY" to describe 2 things, real
reality and perceived reality. But when I say reality, I am only talking
about the first one, real reality.
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Pat is using a LEFT tactic of changing terms, as in terminologies, definitions, meanings, in baiting with one meaning and then in switching to other meanings even with the word "REALITY" as Pat continues to focus on perception. Pat continues to lie in saying that he is not talking about perception. I said this many times. I said he is talking about perception. Then he comments and says he is not talking about perception and then goes on to describe perception to say he is talking about perception. Then I say he is talking about perception and then he rejects it again and then he repeats himself but in different words to describe perception and then I comment back and say that I want to talk about reality.
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Ironically, it seems we both agree that we can try to compare what we learn with each other as we are often too subjective and not objective enough, normally. The concept of perception is of subjectivity and Pat talks about that, perception, subjectivity, relativity, perspective, as we are normally born too subjective and not objective enough or not objective at all. Pat wants to focus on the practicality of going after truth, reality, objectivity, from where we are from our too subjective perspective. I agree with Pat that truth & reality is hard to find. But my questions are not about what he is taking about. We might not be on the same page. Pat might have said there might be only one real reality that we cannot see. Therefore, in that case, you cannot be dead and alive in the same real actual objective reality, then, or can you? Some would say you can only have one real state per reality. There were 3 main things Pat sad, real reality is tough to see, perspective varies, and objective reality can be like the Mandella Effect and/or etc etc etc....... The first 2 things Pat might be saying I can understand and I can agree with. But the third thing is the thing I am trying to focus on. Can objective reality be dualistic in simple ways apart from some exceptions?
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Pat is using a LEFT tactic of changing terms, as in terminologies, definitions, meanings, in baiting with one meaning and then in switching to other meanings even with the word "REALITY" as Pat continues to focus on perception. Pat continues to lie in saying that he is not talking about perception. I said this many times. I said he is talking about perception. Then he comments and says he is not talking about perception and then goes on to describe perception to say he is talking about perception. Then I say he is talking about perception and then he rejects it again and then he repeats himself but in different words to describe perception and then I comment back and say that I want to talk about reality.
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Ironically, it seems we both agree that we can try to compare what we learn with each other as we are often too subjective and not objective enough, normally. The concept of perception is of subjectivity and Pat talks about that, perception, subjectivity, relativity, perspective, as we are normally born too subjective and not objective enough or not objective at all. Pat wants to focus on the practicality of going after truth, reality, objectivity, from where we are from our too subjective perspective. I agree with Pat that truth & reality is hard to find. But my questions are not about what he is taking about. We might not be on the same page. Pat might have said there might be only one real reality that we cannot see. Therefore, in that case, you cannot be dead and alive in the same real actual objective reality, then, or can you? Some would say you can only have one real state per reality. There were 3 main things Pat sad, real reality is tough to see, perspective varies, and objective reality can be like the Mandella Effect and/or etc etc etc....... The first 2 things Pat might be saying I can understand and I can agree with. But the third thing is the thing I am trying to focus on. Can objective reality be dualistic in simple ways apart from some exceptions?
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