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keep hearing rumors that police will confiscate more expensive
motorcycles(i.e not a scooter or a Win) from expats/foreigners, can
anyone tell me if there's anything to it?
Retep Nolnah Where did you hear this ? Bui Vien ?
Andri Ákason No. From 2 different expats.
Retep Nolnah And they heard it from ?
Andri Ákason No idea. Wasn't in my plans to do it when I was told so I didn't really dig deeper.
Retep Nolnah As bad as the police are here , they cannot just go around confiscating bikes for no reason , what's next ? Mobile phones ?
Andri Ákason Didn't
have any problems with them on my way up from HCM to Hanoi, except
maybe Mui Né. But I'd like to be confident in case I invest 10-30m in a
bike.
Retep Nolnah Well you have 2 choices , buy an "expensive"bike , or an "inexpensive" bike .There are no guarantees in life , especially here .
Jason Wallman Wtf just happened here?! Peter is far too rational!
Hehee. Kidding man! Solid responses with less bite in them!
Hehee. Kidding man! Solid responses with less bite in them!
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Alex South ill gotten money ? Tax evasion ?
Andri Ákason What?
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Retep Nolnah Chinese whispers ?
Jefferson Baisđen what they are probably telling you is if you have a nice bike then the police have more leverage to get a higher bribe from you when they pull you over for whatever "violation". If you have a shyte bike and they want 600k and you offer them 100k they will take the 100k. If your bike is not shyte then they have leverage over you because they can keep your bike if you dont pay their "fee".
Andri Ákason No it was a guy that wanted to get a decent bike but was scared to because of confiscation. Then later I met another who said the same. But neither had any actual instance of this happening, just rumors. Hence this post.
Jason Wallman I bought a brand new air blade no problems at all. Though I've never been stopped by the police either.
But the blue card is in my FiL's name as is my wife's Lead
But the blue card is in my FiL's name as is my wife's Lead
Jeremy Miller Andri - What I have heard is that if you have a nicer bike you're a) more likely to be stopped in the first place and/or b) they're more likely to ask for a higher bribe or make a bigger deal about the blue card not being in your name (my understanding is that the police can insist that the person who's name is on the blue card come and pick it up).
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Retep Nolnah That's always been the case though , nothing new
Jefferson Baisđen yup nothing new there, welcome to Nam Andri Ákason
Hai Tran not true! please clarify it from your friends. Zero of my customers reported any case.
this is a city of motorcycles, mate! should not be worried!
this is a city of motorcycles, mate! should not be worried!
Andri Ákason Ok thank you.
Hai Tran anytime.
let me know if you need advice on bikes or reparation!
let me know if you need advice on bikes or reparation!
Jason Wallman How about theft? Any differences in new vs old? Or is it pretty much the same if you leave it in a vulnerable spot?
Hai Tran Everything will be gone in less than 5 mins unwatched, I also tell my clients to keep an eye on the bike when shopping. Or have someone watched over it.
Of course the new ones are more targeted than the old ones , so be more aware of.
Of course the new ones are more targeted than the old ones , so be more aware of.
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Rob Lock probably correct if they do not have the right paperwork....
Morley Scott Honda cub, wave or future... All three bomb proof and not flashy... Flashy bikes are obnoxious anyways
Andri Ákason It's like there might be some place in between a basic scooter and a obnoxiously flashy bike...
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Scott Sommerville There is a rule that is something like, if the bike is registered to you (i.e NN plates), the beige brigade can't confiscate the bike, and have to get the city police to do it... something like that. Matthew Lourey - something like this right, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Hai Tran cases people get confiscated due to their renting purpose and could not prove their registration paper (not given by the renter)
not a good advise to buy bikes that have no paper or originality.
not a good advise to buy bikes that have no paper or originality.
Hai Tran cops would be more hesitated when it comes to NN plate.
Scott Sommerville Sure, I agree. However, I believe that there are certain cops that simply don't have authority to confiscate NN plated vehicles. I could be wrong, it's just a vague recollection.
Romelus Saladar Scott Sommerville NOPE.... not true... they can stop anyone and ask the required details. They all cooperate together with other sections in the SAME LOCAL police department. BOTH carry weapons... hehehehehehehhee
Matthew Lourey Sort of correct Scott. If the bike has NN or LD plates, and the driver has the ownership papers, then the traffic police need the approval from the Provincial Traffic Police headquarters to take the bike (this is located at Pham Ngoc Thach, D3 in HCMC). Because it requires formal paperwork, it is something the normal traffic police just wont bother with.
Scott Sommerville Romelus Saladar Reread what I said.
Romelus Saladar Matthew Lourey YEAH... that's why now we're seeing traffic stops with higher ranking officers to be present in many situations(foreigner or other local making an argument). Confiscation is now slowly increasing, with more police activities having the higher ranking officers present. VN is changing.
Scott Sommerville INDEED Romelus.
Matthew Lourey Romelus Saladar - complete lack of evidence to support your comments. Sorry - but you are wrong, and spreading unsubstantiated crap.
Romelus Saladar Matthew Lourey my comments here are related to those driving around and feel they are ok without the proper paperwork, and you can guess what plates they are using. But if confiscation doesn't occur??? HEHEHEhehehehehe.. OK.. yeah sure.. I don't encourage riding around without the proper details.. but that's what this forum is for. Easy to see what happens when a person is stopped and can't explain or present any proper documents. Nothing to substantiate in this situation. TOO many people get emotional without paying attention to the details.. This is VIETNAM and when things happen.. oh well.. the rules apply to everyone.
Martin Dibďoo Dibdiak Scott Sommerville Beige Brigade 
:D I just exploded :D
:D I just exploded :D
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Morley Scott The Wave and the Future
Morley Scott Normall when I get pulled over if they try to force more than ten bucks I take a picture of their badge and they settle right down on ten bucks
David Clary Fact is...if you are in Vietnam legally and own the bike you are riding legally, with all proper paperwork, then it is rare you will get your bike confiscated.
If you are here on a tourist visa without a proper international or Vietnamese liscense...any police officer can confiscate your moto as soon as they check the registration or see you don't have paperwork.
Will they...well, that depends on you.
If you are here on a tourist visa without a proper international or Vietnamese liscense...any police officer can confiscate your moto as soon as they check the registration or see you don't have paperwork.
Will they...well, that depends on you.
Romelus Saladar YES YES YES... but people think it isn't true or never happens.. HAHHAhaahahahahaha...
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Cameron Allen Just don't stop and skip down the nearest back alley :D
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Romelus Saladar HAHAHAHhaahahaha.... VIETNAM STYLE !!!
Cameron Allen If Vietnam style I should add to go at the minimum, 40km/h down said alley, and then turn into an even smaller alley without slowing down
Romelus Saladar Cameron Allen PLUS without a helmet, no paperwork, no license, STANDING ON THE BIKE while taking a selfie or video(LIVE on FACEBOOK), with the lights off at night, and not indicating as you're turning left and right !!! HhahaAHAhahahahahaa...
Cameron Allen It's the only way!
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Phil Watson If the bike is legally registered and you have a 'proper' licence to ride it, no problem. On the other hand, if the bike is, perhaps, in Vietnam without proper paperwork (ridden in from Cambodia and with forged blue card for example, as is the case with lots of older 'big' bikes), then it can certainly be confiscated.
Andy Tivendale I have a new bike. *touch wood* i have never been stopped was driving the first 3 weeks without reg plates on as well.
Richard Taylor Really common sense.
Just make sure you take a taxi when you plan on drinking a lot. Rarely heard of someone having a bike confiscated that wasn't drunk. The last time it happened to someone I know they massively failed a breathalyzer and had a passenger with no helmet.
They did end up getting the motorbike back.
Just make sure you take a taxi when you plan on drinking a lot. Rarely heard of someone having a bike confiscated that wasn't drunk. The last time it happened to someone I know they massively failed a breathalyzer and had a passenger with no helmet.
They did end up getting the motorbike back.
Michael Brent i'm not sure the op has much... common sense.
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Romelus Saladar THey are now INCREASING inspections on ALL riders. THere have been both Vietnamese and foreigners stopped within the last 6 months TRYING to argue whatever reason. When I came to try to help the foreign guys & girls(even the older people over 50), they were not here legally holding paperwork(or having updated insurances related to the bike(or new the guy that previously owned it) & they weren't having the correct Visa) and regardless of what they waved their hands to try to even pay, there motorbikes were confiscated. Sad to hear them even mention how they purchased the bike recently(whether it was a cheap $250 to a cool $3000++, or BORROWING their mates $15,000 super bike Hahahahahahahahaha). THere are now new licensing categories as well. Funny to also hear the ENGLISH SPEAKING high ranking police officer ask the foreigner, Sir/Madam can I see your License, Visa & where do you work? and seeing most of these unfortunate guys/girls shouting & asking DO YOU WANT MONEY?? There is no problem with those having the paperwork, but if you are missing certain details you will be fined for not having them, and bike still confiscated BUT you can claim it back anyway after paying the fine and showing the required documents. Those who say it doesn't happen? hehehehehehehe... there are rules here in VN. You will see the confiscated bikes inside the trucks often at random traffic locations(both either owned by Vietnamese or OTHER, old bikes and new). VIETNAM is gonna be EXCITING !!! HAHAhahahahahahahaa
Retep Nolnah Hasn't happened to me in 6 years , ho ho ho ho ho 
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Phil Watson You need to cite specific cases of when and where you saw this happen, because I don't believe any of it. In all my time in Vietnam, I've only known 1 foreigner have their bike confiscated and that was during a major clamp down following a death in an accident. They returned it after 3 days.
Again, I ask for specific facts relating to your claims, because I don't think it happened; you've only been here 5 minutes, plus, you're friends with Joey Arnold, so.....
Again, I ask for specific facts relating to your claims, because I don't think it happened; you've only been here 5 minutes, plus, you're friends with Joey Arnold, so.....
Scott Gelsthorpe Mine was confiscated in an accident. My ex's was confiscated after an accident. Got then back but it's a hassle. And this was with legit everything.
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HAhahahahahahaaha.... I'm encouraging to ride with proper credentials... not testing the idea and telling people to not ride with any proper paperwork. HAhahahahahaha... it does happen.. just go to the local police station and make the claim that there are people riding without licenses and they will say they know. Then you may see the random truck full of confiscated bikes at a police stop and ask them why the bikes are in there. HAhahahahahaha.. it does'nt happen???.. just take your chances. There are illegal immigrants in Australia laughing that they haven't been caught driving for several years, and even local Australians in Sydney with the same idea that nobody has stopped them either. There are rules here in VN and if they are enforced, then that's the experience people will realize in that uncomfortable situation. There are are news videos on facebblok with Vietnamese having their bikes taken at random police stops(no paperwork to prove ownership). If you don't wish to ride with proper insurance, bike registration, license, valid Visa & permit, hey it's always been a choice. HEhehehehehehe.. I have been here for the last 10 years and seen bikes confiscated on Dien Bien Phu(Binh Thanh), Thao Dien area, Thu Duc, Binh Chanh, Nguyen Van Linh(Q7 Phu My Hung), Hoang Dieu(Q4), Tran Hung Dao(Q5), and I just happened to be walking passed trying to help, and it's just unfortunate that those foreigners were doing the normal idea(riding around unlicensed, a tourist & often working as well coming back from a teaching gig). Whether it will happen soon?? Who knows. But does it happen? Only a fool would say NOPE there are no POLICE activities that confiscate motorbikes at random traffic inspection points. There are expats here that know this and are doing what is obliged by getting a license, registering their vehicle, paying the insurances regularly, holding the appropriate Visa & permit. No different to life in other developed countries. Things are not so efficient here. People even claimed that foreigners aren't allowed to buy property here as well !! I put that to rest too... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahahaha.. VN is going to be EXCITING !!! The next 5 years will see a different Ho Chi Minh City !!!
Phil Watson Ffs, I haven't bothered to read your whole comment HAHAHAHA.. because I'm sure it won't contain the info I requested. We all know that the police confiscate bikes and no one is encouraging foreigners to ride around without the correct paperwork, but, as long as you're legal and don't go mad, the chances of getting your bike taken are as good as nil. Even without a licence, you'd be a fool not to be able to negotiate a small 'fine' instead of confiscation.
Please stop your ridiculous scaremongering, and just stop it with all the hahahahaha nonsense.
Please stop your ridiculous scaremongering, and just stop it with all the hahahahaha nonsense.
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Mai Hoang Get the blue card, register the bike to yourself, nobody can confiscate your baby.
Romelus Saladar HIhihihihihi.... YEAH.. right ON !!!.. but people will say... NAH... it will NEVER happen... VIETNAM STYLE !!! HAhahahahahaa... VIETNAM will be EXCITING !!!
David Clary Exactly...it is very simple. Follow the rules of the country the way you would expect Vietnamese to follow the rules of yours.
Register your bike. Have the proper visa and paperwork. Few if any problems
Register your bike. Have the proper visa and paperwork. Few if any problems
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Romelus Saladar There are NOW EXPATS that MIGHT even stop you if they see you driving the wrong way !!! HAhahahaahahahaha...
http://video.thanhnien.vn/.../ong-tay-gan-do-hang-chuc...
http://video.thanhnien.vn/.../ong-tay-gan-do-hang-chuc...
video.thanhnien.vn|By Báo Thanh Niên
Phil Watson Romelus saladar you're an idiot; stop spamming this page with all your nonsense.
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HAHAHHAHHahahahaha.. so you can make a comment, and other's CAN'T???? HEhehehehehehe.. OK.. HAHahahahahahahaha
Phil Watson Ffs. You're ridiculous.
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HAHAHAHahahahahaha... yes you enjoy the freedom's of writing as you wish, then you tell other's how restrict there's... hahahahaahahahahaah... right.. HAHAHAhahahahahahaaha... nothing wrong with a way of writing a comment.. you don't see me telling you how to write your ideas or ask you to be less derogatory?? HAhahahahahahaha.. facebook is FANTASTIC !!!.. Vietnam is gonna be EXCITING !!!
Phil Watson As I said before; ridiculous. You can write how you like, but can you not see that your message is lost amongst the nonsense you include. It leads to people to think you are crazy and that what you have to say is nonsense. Do you understand that?
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HOHOHOHOHOho HAhahahahaha... I laugh because so many nonsense things have been seen here in Vietnam. I comment because here is an open forum where even you can comment, and have your expression lost among the clutter. I'm not getting agitated with your expression because I don't tell you how to write. I'm putting up info, even the ABOVE VIDEO, because it show's there are foreigners fed up with the way people don't follow the rules !!! I haven't contradicted myself saying they need proof that it happens, where there is too much proof that too many wrong things happen, and there are police doing their tasks(maybe not so efficiently in a developing VN) & when these officer enforce the rules we see the unfortunate situation of people loosing something they paid for(from cheap motorbikes or new ones). ALL of our comments are amongst the billions of messages in facebook. Whether I'm crazy for writing it, and thinking NOBODY reads it?? HEHEHEHEHEH Hahahahahahahahaa... I'm STILL WRITING !!! Always something to learn from a comment or 2 from someone LIVING LIFE in Vietnam !!! HAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha People say LIFE ISn'T CRAZY in VIetnam??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. YEAH right I BELIEVE THEM !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAha
Phil Watson Nobody has learnt anything from any if your comments.
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HAhahahahahahaha... so people learn from your comments, where you tell me I am ridiculous??? HHAahahahahahahahaha.. I'm happy to comment.. just as much as you're happy to tell OTHERS how to comment(except I don't impose my idea on them on how they should write). Comment away... I'm just letting people know that if they don't follow the rules of being valid to ride, then eventually such things as random traffic stops may lead to confiscation. This particular comment above I mentioned an expat that doesn't like people who also doesn't like others that don't follow road rules. I haven't targeted you for your comment. I encourage you to comment. I haven't said anything about your character, because of your LITERARY STYLE of commenting. HAHAHAHAHAHaha... Just laugh at it mate.. I'm not going to become negative because you're not happy about someone, because they write in a certain way. I'm laughing in a humorous way, to stick to the subject of bikes being confiscated for a particular reason. It's not a laughing matter when a person buys something, feeling they have the freedom to ride around illegally, then if unlucky they have it taken, or they're involved in something worse. I'm sticking to that subject. AND LAUGHING AT IT Because we will always see people coming to VN riding around happy go lucky without the propare paperwork !!! HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Phil Watson Yeah, whatever... No one in Vietnam will ever take you seriously because you're "friends" with the utter cockwomble that is joey 'oatmeal' Arnold; this cancels out any credibility that you may otherwise have had.
Romelus Saladar Phil Watson HAHAHAhahahahaahahahah... right ok... I guess you're the few that also believe foreigners can't buy property in Vietnam either??? HAhahahahahaha... Vietnam is changing.. VIETNAM is gonna be EXCITING !!! regardles of WHO has the credibility... maybe you're involved in something BIG in VIETNAM... that's FANTASTIC.. contributing to the development here... and riding a bike with all the right paperwork too.. LIFE IS CRAZY IN VIETNAM !!!
Phil Watson Don't worry about me; you have enough problems of your own.... My bike has proper paperwork and so do I. Personally, I wouldn't invest any money in property in Vietnam (even though I am well aware of the rules regarding foreigners) because I believe the risk of a major price crash is serious.
About the only thing you have right is that the future of Vietnam is exciting, but they will need to find a way of improving the lives of working class people before enough people can afford to buy these apartments they keep on building.
About the only thing you have right is that the future of Vietnam is exciting, but they will need to find a way of improving the lives of working class people before enough people can afford to buy these apartments they keep on building.
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Justin Cox Start to worry once the government starts paying police a livable salary and cuts down on corruption. Until then, it's not shocking to hear that they ask bribes from foreigners who drive around way too fast on bikes that cost more than the average yearly salary of Vietnam.
Johnny Starantino Amen.
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